From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 07:57:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8ECC16A4CE for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 07:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk (tx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14AED43D48 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 07:57:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk) Received: from scan1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.166] helo=localhost) by tx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCJvF-0000x7-GD for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 15:57:29 +0100 Received: from rx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.165]) by localhost (scan1.oucs.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.166]) (amavisd-new, port 25) with ESMTP id 03398-07 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 15:57:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from gateway.wadham.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.161.253]) by rx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BCJvE-0000x2-60 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 15:57:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 32161 invoked by uid 1004); 10 Apr 2004 14:57:28 -0000 Received: from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk by gateway by uid 71 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.67. sweep: 2.18/3.79. Clear:RC:1(163.1.161.131):. Processed in 0.181395 secs); 10 Apr 2004 14:57:28 -0000 Received: from dhcp1131.wadham.ox.ac.uk (HELO piii600.wadham.ox.ac.uk) (163.1.161.131) by gateway.wadham.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Apr 2004 14:57:28 -0000 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.1.20040410153432.081145e0@imap.sfu.ca> X-Sender: cperciva@imap.sfu.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 15:55:54 +0100 To: "Michael W. Oliver" From: Colin Percival In-Reply-To: <20040410142317.GB44146@gargantuan.com> References: <20040410115135.GA20807@norsu.kameli.org> <8501.1081595369@critter.freebsd.dk> <20040410142317.GB44146@gargantuan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Future of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 14:57:30 -0000 At 15:23 10/04/2004, Michael W. Oliver wrote: >On 2004-04-10T13:09:29+0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> Imagine if some of our users sent $1/month for each FreeBSD machine >> they were running. > >Ok, I will send in $5/month for each machine that I have running >FreeBSD. Can you verify for me that the FreeBSD Foundation is the >proper recipient for this donation? The FreeBSD Foundation is *a* proper recipient; whether it is *the* proper recipient depends upon your intention. The Foundation gets work done which they think is important; their views may or may not align with yours, and you certainly won't be able to point to anything and say "my money paid for that". If I had money to donate (which I don't!) I'd probably buy items from the FreeBSD Developer "Want List" and/or pay committers directly; but that's entirely a personal preference. (As a side note: RedHat charged people $60/year for access to their binary update service; I've been providing binary updates to FreeBSD for the past year, and I'm averaging about $0.30 per user so far -- and all but $10 of that was in response to a targetted drive for money so that I could buy hardware for building said updates.) Colin Percival