From owner-cvs-all Wed Mar 14 15: 3: 7 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6785737B71C; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:02:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f2EN27G84092; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:02:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15023.55033.745531.86279@nomad.yogotech.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:01:46 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Nate Williams Subject: Re: Core's function (was: The Project and onward [was: Re: cvs c Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, obrien@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 14-Mar-01 Nate Williams wrote: >> I agree with JKH here -- it does not have to be Core to do something. > > I never said it had to be a core person doing the 'something'. But, > core should be able to 'bless' certain people/projects, etc..., similar > to what was done with SMPng. Even if you didn't like the direction > Jason was taking the project, he *was* the leader, so that removed alot > (not all) of the hassles and arguments that people had about direction. This is an important point. Part of what made SMPng work was that in cases where there was a dispute Jason was avaiable to make a final decision if the group as a whole couldn't come to a consensus. Granted, we didn't have to do this very often, but I think knowing that that option was there also forced us to be a little more willing to compromise, as well. >> It could be *anyone*. In fact the right person to do the things you >> are looking for, should be chosen much more for their personality and >> charisma, than being being elected to an administrative body. > > Sure, but core should be able to put a 'stamp of approval' on them, thus > giving them more clout to have people rally around the flag. Yes. Whether core or jkh or anyone else likes it or not, most committers and other people who follow the Project perceive that core has authority, and thus they are in the position to grant that authority to flag wavers should the need arise. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message