From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 02:53:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5EEE5E4; Sat, 7 Jun 2014 02:53:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (pancho.soaustin.net [76.74.250.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7992EBF; Sat, 7 Jun 2014 02:53:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 677485607F; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 21:52:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 21:52:58 -0500 From: Mark Linimon To: Jim Ohlstein Subject: Re: Who was the mental genius Message-ID: <20140607025258.GA906@lonesome.com> References: <5391611A.3090406@marino.st> <53917957.2020909@freebsd.org> <53917A30.8050504@marino.st> <18E02559D230ED6DF11C040A@localhost> <20140606151739.GC73493@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <5392201B.7040507@ohlste.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5392201B.7040507@ohlste.in> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Warren Block , Baptiste Daroussin , Michael Gmelin , Alfred Perlstein , Paul Schmehl , Alfred Perlstein , "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2014 02:53:00 -0000 On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 04:10:03PM -0400, Jim Ohlstein wrote: > Not to get too far off topic but as a life long east coaster (except > for a short sojourn in the flatlands of Kansas), and being old > enough to know better, that is not "normal" east coast chiding. > Maybe that's normal northeast talk, but here in the south people > have manners. I was going to say something along these same lines ... but to me this message, as well, comes off a bit harsh. I understand Paul's point even if I found the initial tone abrasive. But I know a lot of context is lost when conversations are down-converted to keystrokes. Perhaps Paul can understand why, for a native southerner, seeing that kind of Subject: line can be demotivating, especially in the light of how hard it has been in the past to make such large changes to the infrastructure. Please remember folks: one person's "blowing off steam" can lead to another person's "why do I bother trying to fix things anyways." mcl