From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 15 14:03:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F59F37B401 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mailbox.co.uk (smtp.mailbox.co.uk [195.82.125.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1E243FB1 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:03:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wayne.pascoe@penguinpowered.org.uk) Received: from [212.18.244.168] (helo=marvin.penguinpowered.org.uk) by smtp.mailbox.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 195Xai-0006mi-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 22:03:44 +0100 Received: from waynep by marvin.penguinpowered.org.uk with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 195Xkf-00034o-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 22:14:01 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 22:14:01 +0100 From: Wayne Pascoe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030415211401.GA11799@marvin.penguinpowered.org.uk> References: <20030415192000.GA11033@marvin.penguinpowered.org.uk> <20030415205020.GA39014@keyslapper.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030415205020.GA39014@keyslapper.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-System: FreeBSD i386 with kernel 4.8-STABLE Sender: User Waynep Subject: Re: John X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 21:03:47 -0000 On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 04:50:21PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > This is really an underhanded way to 'prevent' spam. Basically, > Spamarrest requires you validate yourself to them before they'll allow > your mail through to their customers. Of course, if you read their > fine print, you're basically giving them permission to send you > information about their service. Essentially, they wind up spamming > you directly until you buy their service. They make no promises as to > the privacy of your contact info, and they provide no easy way to be > taken off their list. That was my take. And as they're not UK based, I'm not protected by the data protection act and have no recourse. > My opinion is that if someone wants me to get spammed so they don't > have to, doesn't deserve any of my time anyway. Fully agreed! > There have been threads on this subject in a number of mailing lists, > particularly the SpamAssassin list. The general consensus among the > antispam community is that they are the wolf in sheeps clothing. Ok, so if they're a problem, shouldn't the list manager dump subscribers to their service from this list? The purpose of this list is for FreeBSD users to support each other. While I do ask a fair amount of questions, I'm also trying to answer questions more. But if every post is going to result in spam, where is people's incentive to support each other? This kind of behaviour is not good for the community IMHO... -- Wayne Pascoe