From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 12 19:52:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C9016A4CE for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net (cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A739543D1F for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:52:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pixfbsd@earthlink.net) Received: from user153.net413.tx.sprint-hsd.net ([65.40.98.153] helo=[192.168.10.15]) by cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AV0pe-0006pq-00; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:52:43 -0800 From: pixfbsd To: denon@denon.cx In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20031211225738.05815900@mail.jon.com> References: <20031212000934.TAGY73768.web01-imail.rogers.com@win2000> <20031211203621.S45532@carver.gumbysoft.com> <6.0.1.1.2.20031211225738.05815900@mail.jon.com> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1071291244.13932.1.camel@viper.dlqj.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:54:04 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD 4.8 and instabilities with Buslogic SCSI drivers in VMWare X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:52:52 -0000 Pardon my missing this. So your environment is FreeBSD 4.8 machine with VMware producing your Win2000 environment? On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 23:02, denon wrote: > I agree with your analysis of the 4-year old driver, though it's funny to > say it's in a difficult to reproduce environment. In all actuality, a > software-based system would be one of the most controlled environments > available, removing all variables of heat, flakey hardware, etc, and > abstracting them from the hardware layer. VMware seems to be really robust, > when the OS plays nicely. (unfortunately win2k under vmware seems to be > extremely robust, even under high loads .. what luck.) > > This aside, I think you'll find that creating a FBSD 4.8 system in a > scsi-based vmware disk will reproduce it somewhat consistently. I've spoke > with several others having the same issue. > > You'll also take note that I'm not the guy that said this place was dead. :) > > Regards, > > -d > > > At 10:43 PM 12/11/2003, you wrote: > >On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Mike Jakubik wrote: > > > > > It seems like this list is dead, and the developers don't care anymore. > > > Current is where it's at. > > > >This is patently wrong. Please don't do this. > > > >Since this is an isolated report in a hard-to-reproduce environment > >(vmware), its difficult to say if this is a bug in our software or a bug > >in vmware. Considering the bt driver hasn't been touched in over 4 years, > >I'm thinking that there may be issues in vmware. > > > >I'd follow up with the vmware folks. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of denon > > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:28 PM > > > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.8 and instabilities with Buslogic SCSI drivers in > > > VMWare > > > > > > So there are no other thoughts on this? I kinda figured people were > > > interested in squashing 4.8 bugs left and right .. :) > > > > > > -d > > > > > > At 03:25 PM 12/8/2003, you wrote: > > > >Responses inline: > > > > > > > >At 03:41 PM 12/7/2003, you wrote: > > > >>On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, denon wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > We've been doing more work with VMware and FreeBSD lately. Overall > > it's > > > >> > been going well, but we have a machine that's giving me grief, and I'm > > > a > > > >> > bit concerned. > > > >> > > > > >> > It's running 4.8-Release, with a single virtual SCSI drive. It's been > > > >> > running fine for months, but as of recently, it's started locking > > > >> up. When > > > >> > it locks up, this is what's in the messages: > > > >> > /kernel: (da0:bt0:0:0:0): CCB 0xca993340 - timed out > > > >> > /kernel: bt0: btdone - Attempt to free non-active BCCB 0xca9933c0 > > > >> > > > >>I wonder if the vmware environment is bug-for-bug compatible with the old > > > >>buslogic hardware :-) > > > > > > > >Sure seems it .. though it was stable for a long time, so I don't know .. > > > > > > > > > > > >>I suspect this is a bug in vmware, where the emulated driver is suffering > > > >>from long-term corruption. 43-day bug, perhaps? > > > >> > > > >>Does stopping and starting VMware clear this up? > > > > > > > >Nope, apparently not .. I tried and its happened again today. Seems to > > > >happen about twice a day, but no pattern to it that I see.. > > > > > > > > > > > >-d > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > >-- > >Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve > >dwhite@gumbysoft.com | www.FreeBSD.org > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"