From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 24 23:43:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA07947 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:43:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles360.castles.com [208.214.167.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA07915; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:43:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00720; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:47:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199809250647.XAA00720@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Donn Miller cc: Mike Smith , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: reading Sun-formatted diskettes In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:32:36 -0000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:47:23 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > On Thu, 24 Sep 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > The tech-support guy at Sun Microsystems said that maybe my CDROM wasn't > > > 100% ATAPI/IDE compliant. Now I'm wondering why Solaris is so picky that > > > it has to have a CDROM that is 100% IDE compliant, even though > > > FreeBSD/Linux/Win98 can use the CDROM perfectly well. It's a BTC 24X max > > > CDROM. > > > > It's a convenient excuse for not fixing their driver. > > I figured as much... here I am thinking my hardware is inadaquate. That > guy was trying to tell me to replace my CDROM drive. I just told him it > works fine on FreeBSD and Linux... He said he was suspicious of that > "$19.95 special" I was using for a CDROM drive. ( I don't know how much > it cost really, but I know Soren used the same brand to test his CDRW > driver so I figured it couldn't be that bad). They're a fairly typical Taiwanese unit. We actually bought the BTC CD-R for Soren because we were expecting it to represent something at the worse end of the spectrum, so that he'd have a better chance of covering some of the to-be-expected defects. As it turns out, it behaves better than the HP drive we also sent. > I thought OH, a drive doesn't work with Sun software so that automatically > makes it a cheap piece of crap. Sounds like their cdrom drivers need > fixing. To be fair, ATAPI is a disgusting hack and developing ATAPI drivers not an easy task. Sun aren't in the same position we are where we can honestly admit our faults without suffering terrible loss of face - they have to find some way to transfer the blame or be diminished. Under these circumstances, you can understand, if not forgive, their attitude. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message