From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 25 12:59:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D08106564A; Fri, 25 May 2012 12:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jlh@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (smtp5-g21.free.fr [IPv6:2a01:e0c:1:1599::14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2E58FC12; Fri, 25 May 2012 12:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from endor.tataz.chchile.org (unknown [82.233.239.98]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E02AD48079; Fri, 25 May 2012 14:58:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from felucia.tataz.chchile.org (felucia.tataz.chchile.org [192.168.1.9]) by endor.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4073CC; Fri, 25 May 2012 14:58:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: by felucia.tataz.chchile.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D3331EB23; Fri, 25 May 2012 12:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 14:58:57 +0200 From: Jeremie Le Hen To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20120525125857.GA47353@felucia.tataz.chchile.org> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Mark Linimon , lev@FreeBSD.org, Kirk McKusick , freebsd-current FreeBSD , Steven Hartland , Konstantin Belousov , "Bjoern A. Zeeb" References: <38A5BC8F-A8FB-4371-AB1D-9548F5957254@lists.zabbadoz.net> <20120523131046.GC2358@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <12410676034.20120524013853@serebryakov.spb.ru> <8D72700F5CA4461BAD1C98908689CB9E@multiplay.co.uk> <20120523220533.GA11122@lonesome.com> <4FBE92FC.5030001@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FBE92FC.5030001@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: lev@FreeBSD.org, Kirk McKusick , freebsd-current FreeBSD , Steven Hartland , "Bjoern A. Zeeb" , Konstantin Belousov , Mark Linimon Subject: Re: UFS+J panics on HEAD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 12:59:10 -0000 On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 09:58:52PM +0200, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 24/05/2012 00:05, Mark Linimon wrote: > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:58:48PM +0100, Steven Hartland wrote: > >> > While it might be a shame to see FFS go by the wayside are there any > >> > big reasons why you would rather stick with FFS instead of moving > >> > to ZFS with all the benefits that brings? > > > - ZFS eats bytes for breakfast. It is completely inappropriate > > for anything with less than 4GB RAM. > > > > - ZFS performs poorly under disk-nearly-full conditions. > > - ZFS is not optimal for situations where there are a lot of small, > randomly dispersed IOs around the disk space. Like in any sort of > RDBMS. This is very true for reads, not for writes because it is a COW filesystem so writes are usually sequencial disk-wise. -- Jeremie Le Hen Men are born free and equal. Later on, they're on their own. Jean Yanne