From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 17:55:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 478AC16A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2014 17:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE8E22A74 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2014 17:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s58Htiws011460 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 8 Jun 2014 11:55:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s58HtiJn011457; Sun, 8 Jun 2014 11:55:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 11:55:44 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Jim Pazarena Subject: Re: pkg 2 ng conversion In-Reply-To: <5394A105.5040006@paz.bz> Message-ID: References: <5394A105.5040006@paz.bz> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 08 Jun 2014 11:55:45 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2014 17:55:47 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jun 2014, Jim Pazarena wrote: > On 2014-05-28 11:30 AM, Jim Ohlstein wrote: >> Hello, >> >> On 5/28/14, 2:13 PM, Jim Pazarena wrote: >>> >>> On a new/fresh install, V10, should a person immediately place >>> "WITH_PKGNG=yes" in the make.conf ? And then is it not required >>> to run pkg2ng ? Or is it implied? It seems not, but I cannot find >>> documentation in this respect. >> >> In my experience it is unnecessary to add "WITH_PKGNG=yes" in a fresh >> FreeBSD 10 box, and it is certainly not necessary to run pkg2ng since >> there are no installed packages. >> >> The pkg_* tools are not included in FreeBSD 10 and the pkg(ng) system is >> the default. >> > > this process is a little confusing. > do I still need to run "portsnap fetch" ? If you build from ports and wish to continue using them, then yes, continue to use portsnap or svn to update the ports tree. > Or does this need to be replaced with some other ng style update? No. pkg is just a package manager. It does not replace ports, it just handles packages. Like the old package manager, binary packages can be downloaded and installed rather than ports, but the choice is yours.