From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 27 14:31:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20440 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:31:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20398 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:31:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15005; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:31:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr05.primenet.com(206.165.6.205) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd014985; Sun Sep 27 14:31:12 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA29999; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:31:08 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199809272131.OAA29999@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Softupdates panics To: street@iname.com (Kevin Street) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 21:31:08 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, street@iname.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <13838.43349.110576.318091@kstreet.interlog.com> from "Kevin Street" at Sep 27, 98 05:20:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Well, this certainly started an interesting series on noatime and SU. > If I could just review the score so far, we have: > > 1 for "It's a Bad Thing" later retracted > 2 for "I've never heard this and I do it, you must be thinking of async" > 1 for "It's superstition, noatime and SU are fine" > 2 for "It likely triggers an access change that exposes a SU bug" > 1 for "It breaks your dependency graph into pieces" > (perhaps I should count this as 2 for "Bad Thing") > > I think we need a decision from the referee. Well, feel free to ask Kirk. My claim that it's a bad thing came from a discussion of noatime and Soft Updates with Kirk and Julian in Julian's cube several months ago. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message