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Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Goran Gajic <ggajic@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu>
Subject: Re: 7.0-CURRENT ppp related panic
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Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org> writes:

> V> > Kernel ppp(4) is known to have problems. At least there are problems with
> V> > interaction of Giant-locked tty layer and Giant-less network layer.
> V> >
> V> > I'd recommend you to use user-level ppp(8), or mpd, which routes traffic
> V> > through kernel ng_ppp(4).
> V> 
> V> I may be mistaken, but I saw pppd in the panic report, isn't it an
> V> indication of user-level ppp?
>
> pppd(8) is a daemon that controls kernel level PPP.
> ppp(8) is a daemon implementing PPP in userland.

Yes, it's time for me to learn to read, sorry...
I meant the kernel one :)

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