From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 23 22:58:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900E137B69B for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:58:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with UUCP id f0O6w5m48893; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (tedsbox [192.168.1.20]) by toybox.placo.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA01113; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 21:16:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "'Arcady Genkin'" , Subject: RE: imap and pop3 via stunnel (was: UW-IMAP server and secure authentication) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 21:16:35 -0800 Message-ID: <001801c085c4$d2fc2cc0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20010122223239.P10761@rfx-216-196-73-168.users.reflex> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So far I haven't seen a single suggestion here that will do anything to increase usage of encryption on the Internet. You seem to be advocating an Internet where high encryption is a product that is an extra add-on to IP communications and should cost money, and we all should be paying fees to the CA industry. Obviously, normal economic forces will naturally limit it's deployment. It's a lot like the governments attitude of let's keep the strong encryption away from the people if we can. From my point of view, I don't see any reason why high encryption cannot be built into all TCP/IP communication and just come as part of the stack itself, and CA's be issued freely by any server. After all, you can use any DNS server on the Internet to look up names, and NTP services are free for the asking, why should encryption certificates be any different? Of course, if encryption should ever become as common as the TCP/IP stack, there wouldn't be an industry of people sitting around figuring out ways to make it more complicated to use, or legally restricting it, or putting algorithims for it under restrictive licenses, etc. etc. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Crist J. Clark >Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 10:33 PM >To: 'Arcady Genkin'; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: imap and pop3 via stunnel (was: UW-IMAP server and secure >authentication) > > >On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 04:20:59AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >[80+ line rant deleted.] > >Good luck with the new medication. Looks like you still need to work >on the dosage. >-- >Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message