From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 25 07:25:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07800 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:25:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from greeves.mfn.org (greeves.mfn.org [204.238.179.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA07793 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:25:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sysadmin@mfn.org) Received: from noc.mfn.org (noc.mfn.org [204.238.179.35]) by greeves.mfn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA10378; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:25:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from sysadmin@mfn.org) Received: by noc.mfn.org with Microsoft Mail id <01BDE865.11771640@noc.mfn.org>; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:15:41 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDE865.11771640@noc.mfn.org> From: "J.A. Terranson" To: "'Florian_Uhl@3com.com'" , Charlie ROOT , "'FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: RE: Boot time message makes no sense. Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:15:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [->] Regardless of the opinions expressed herein by either Florian or myself, the actual problem stum still remains: Why do I get an error regarding *exports* of /usr, when there is no such thing being done (see very end of this for more detail). I would suggest removing the first of the following two lines from the /etc/fstab. /dev/wd0s1e /usr ufs rw 2 2 greeves:/usr /usr nfs ro 0 0 Why would you want to mount a local filesystem on the same mount point as the network mount (without using a union/merge mount)? [->] This is how I have mounted my /usr on the entire network: it allows me to keep a single, updated /usr, completely superceding the skeletal /usr that is there for booting and single user purposes. And mounting /usr read-only is not that good, either. [->] I disagree. A r/o /usr is a *must* when exporting it to machines which have untrusted users with pretty much unrestricted access to their own machines. E.g. normally /home is a symlink to /usr/home and therefore all your users' home directories would be read-only. Not very nice ;) [->] Which is why our home directories live on a separate filesystem, /homes. Oh, and don't forget /usr/local/etc with a lot of the configs and the local startup stuff in rc.d/. [->] Which is global and works just fine on every other machine which has it mounted... Cheers ... -- florian Not speaking for or on behalf of 3Com or U.S.Robotics. To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Boot time message makes no sense. Greetings! I brought this machine up tonight, and have *never* exported /usr, so I don't know what the following boot log snippet is trying to tell me (first two lines to orient you as to where in the boot sequence this occurs): Sep 24 21:01:27 cliff /kernel: npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard Sep 24 21:01:28 cliff /kernel: npx0: 387 emulator Sep 24 21:01:34 cliff mountd[99]: Can't delete exports for /usr Here's the fstab: # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/wd0s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/wd0a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/wd0s1e /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/wd0s1f /var/mail ufs rw 2 2 greeves:/usr /usr nfs ro 0 0 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 and here is /etc/exports /var/mail -maproot=0 -alldirs Obviously we are centralizing around a new hub... Any thoughts? TIA, J.Blau, Asst. Admin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message