From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 6 6:19:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ostrich.prod.itd.earthlink.net (ostrich.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E50E37B9C7 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 06:19:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bduk@earthlink.net) Received: from merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.156]) by ostrich.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26890 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 03:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earthlink.net (sdn-ar-006orportP330.dialsprint.net [63.178.69.108]) by merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA13196; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 03:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bduk@localhost) by earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA03845; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 02:51:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bduk) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 02:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Posted-Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 02:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200004060951.CAA03845@earthlink.net> From: Derrick Baumer To: Meerwaldt@t-online.de Cc: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr, Meerwaldt@t-online.de, spider90@hotmail.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (Meerwaldt@t-online.de) Subject: Re: partitions Reply-To: bduk@earthlink.net Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Meerwaldt@t-online.de (Frederik Meerwaldt) > > Hi! > > > Hi! > > > > > > Delete Windows as it's the biggest bullshit. Then just install FreeBSD and > > > be happy (you can do everything with FreeBSD, which you can do with > > > Windows. The difference is: faster, more stable, reliable...) > > > > > > Have fun. > > > > Not actually what was asked. Moreover, this style (attacking Windows, > > in an effort to prove FreeBSD better) does not differ much from the > > methods used by some companies when they're spreading FUD. > > > > Apart from being offensive, do you have any *real* data to back up your > > claims that: > > Dunno how you mean this, but I can tell you reasons: > > > > > a) Windows is the biggest bullshit. > > It hangs very often, it's slow, it's uncomfortable, it lives in its own > world (no nfs, nis, the standard stuff), BSODs,.... I think that's clear. > > b) The specific user can "do everything with FreeBSD, which he/she can > > do with Windows". > > Which reasons do you want there? Tell me one thing, which you can't do > with FreeBSD Apparently, you can't get an unbiased evaluation. I've wiped this response and started over 5 times. I'm finding it hard to phrase things without coming across as aggressive. I believe the point that is trying to be made here is that it is generally considered unproductive to make very generalistic claims about Windows *or* FreeBSD (or any other operating system for that matter). A better approach would be to cite specific issues with the intent of allowing the reader to make up their own mind about the suitability of one system over the other. For example, Windows is frequently cited as being less stable than FreeBSD, and when a program does crash, it often takes the entire system down with it. FreeBSD has its issues as well, but it is designed to prevent any one program from taking down the entire system. This should be considered if you anticipate using your machine in a production environment. On the other hand, Windows has a tremendous advantage in its common interface. If you're familiar with one Windows program, you'll find other programs similar enough in basic operation as to be intuitive. FreeBSD, as well as most of the other UNIX-like systems, has a fairly steep learning curve, or at least a significant "forgetting curve", for those coming from the Windows environment. The last image we want to portray to someone who is investigating FreeBSD as a primary or secondary operating system is that of a bunch of "religious zealots" who decry anything Microsoft simply for the sake of its origin. It is also important to note that the person who posted the original message had asked how to install both operating systems. The initial response to that question was, essentially, "don't", which does not answer the question at all. If the poster was comfortable with Windows and was simply looking at FreeBSD out of curiosity, your response probably encouraged him/her very strongly to look elsewhere to satisfy their curiosities. Not an admirable performance by any measure. I'll get back down off my soapbox now. Sorry, y'all. Wont do it again. -- Derrick Baumer - Black Duck Software To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message