From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Apr 8 21:45:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DB337B405 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 21:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool0021.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.21] helo=mindspring.com) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16unVL-0002Sz-00; Mon, 08 Apr 2002 21:45:16 -0700 Message-ID: <3CB271C2.4126BDF2@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 21:44:50 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dan@langille.org Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail black lists such as ORBS/ORBZ etc References: <20020408234554.8D69F3F30@bast.unixathome.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dan Langille wrote: > Given the increase in spam levels over the past 6 months or so, I'm > surprised that nobody has stepped forward to fund real time black lists > such as ORBS/ORBZ. Why is that? > > Do people see them as unworthy projects? Not worth funding? Or is there > just no funding available? Blacklists are illegal, under the RICO anti-racketeering statutes, which were intended to prevent organized crime. The "ORBS" nad the "MAPS RBL" do not claim to be blacklists; they specifically go out of their way to ensure that they are opt-in, and that they otherwise do not meet the legal definition of a blacklist. However...MAPS has been to court on a number of occasions anyway, since you can sue anyone for anything. The results of these suits are listed at: http://mail-abuse.org/ MAPS is not-for-profit. They get donations, and they have a subscription service which is, I believe, donation based. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message