From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 22:12:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBE5ED2B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 22:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.scaleengine.net (beauharnois2.bhs1.scaleengine.net [142.4.218.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1D4286 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 22:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (Seawolf.HML3.ScaleEngine.net [209.51.186.28]) (Authenticated sender: allanjude.freebsd@scaleengine.com) by mx1.scaleengine.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4276D9027B for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 22:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <54C80D3D.6050601@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 17:12:13 -0500 From: Allan Jude User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Subject: Re: preferred jail management tool References: <20150127012347.GA4940@lonesome.com> <20150127141239.V77290@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <54C7958B.40007@gmail.com> <54C7C828.4070703@erdgeist.org> <14943.128.135.70.2.1422381245.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <54C7D371.9010609@erdgeist.org> <13934.128.135.70.2.1422383293.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <54C7F109.2040405@erdgeist.org> <54C7FF2D.2070802@quip.cz> <54C80145.3070201@erdgeist.org> In-Reply-To: <54C80145.3070201@erdgeist.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NVdbsWXbMjj52RQnrBCf692pLjE3kSXMp" X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 22:12:08 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --NVdbsWXbMjj52RQnrBCf692pLjE3kSXMp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015-01-27 16:21, Dirk Engling wrote: > On 27.01.15 22:12, Miroslav Lachman wrote: >=20 >> Yes. Sometimes I have a feeling that jails or some other features are >> unwanted children. I had PR opened for years with patche to rc.d/jail = or >> etc/rc.subr to incorporate nice, or cpuset. And it never found it's wa= y >> to the tree. >=20 > How's that possible? >=20 > I felt similarly frustrated when I went to 2013's BSDCan trying to talk= > to the "jaily people" and noone was around. Jamie couldn't attend but > said that he's busy with other stuff and couldn't commit time to jail > development. Which, of course, is fine. It leaves a void, though. >=20 > What good are features that are neither documented nor exposed to the > users? How do we move on from here and get config and docs synchronized= > and where can I get a big picture of what's the big plan for the future= ? >=20 > erdgeist > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-jail@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-jail > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-jail-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"= >=20 If there are problems with documentation, and you have corrections or suggested additions, I would be happy to help shepard those into the handbook or manpages --=20 Allan Jude --NVdbsWXbMjj52RQnrBCf692pLjE3kSXMp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUyA09AAoJEJrBFpNRJZKfcrkQAKQQmH4EFN/xbVeT2NwkwUHU IMh7nicUtYKOKykw9KB2NduQ0SpSvV5YqoQ0rD+Oww6I4F+qBA6oHwYbB8or9Dca dXal5nhIKCqvlNU4qD/Ov0bjJuXoRCSXambSmVhu8umGHwH5LhRAV2D+I5+1Q52h bxELQalWYI/YKEvAKA2VBxshH4R3ASkzZXf7RckZcInYR05E6iqthZkEonF9Whd/ wNp/j1lVeQMRKT2kZ+QID/Umd8iQZ0v0eW7MD5NUf2gcVDvUWDTid43yPM2JxGN5 tExvH4693yaKWMgf2+sYVWCeuANCyuVCQ3BaD1w0kyjnrtCphdHyVwPFxAoIJcbX PklYf0CGmfFkz2VM/s8BAnoZpuGbO+/OIAZQYIeYCzjvsUsAaLj2nmvqIR/Vbxbc KW7oE385qf3lUgTPr+gsfAyRPp2oJCHvsYkZ39HrkUUqr8/U8AQQesQe9HgDQSvA oIncTpqAoBAwi8cHm1m18kK+dVuQ15fhclW4xS/eS/tXgEEcSY0dc2qsTpqnp+i2 KE34YiF7KcPpd/bkUeUS9Cak3ml4ua8Xj6mxPPQrDmsgGXOIo+IE57RqpVgJQJqj 6GRDx0jtqLSJYLp48Zfede7PfpyRdWNu4+sSBh3Wt0tG/yKMKORM/uwk98VF5M+u 2p7U0w6d4GYeBdsgrIfk =KCXp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NVdbsWXbMjj52RQnrBCf692pLjE3kSXMp--