From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 9 20:49:53 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E3B2F564E for ; Sat, 9 May 2020 20:49:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c1000543076a.6bc74c136ff2900a58eabe0d529412c2@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49KK813k8pz4K9d for ; Sat, 9 May 2020 20:49:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c1000543076a.6bc74c136ff2900a58eabe0d529412c2@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1589057394; x=1591649394; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=SHGgEQubVi5bJ5lnEXP1MEug6PmLWECFA+JnI/ObzRI=; b=AiO9IBKjdMBiH4vLSdNTe9tDedUE0elWZBllVUqKQG3twfKqTDupURrvVw5kJbpsi+GuZpmWCso6wgus/iiQiB2GDY9KCQA4jQN5587zF/ZAmumnYjOmXnIembdiW50fL+jBpoY9+GOo+jFwvg1HcKDf/G4UXJkRMwtNjgxEJXY= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMTAwMDU0MzA3NmEuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.3]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 9 May 2020 16:49:41 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 9 May 2020 16:49:40 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jXWPj-000Evr-IT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 21:49:39 +0100 Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 21:49:39 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Microsoft Teams for Linux Message-Id: <20200509214939.aa081d47e0c5c8d7533c191e@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20200509160537.000068b7@seibercom.net> References: <20200508113438.00006adc@seibercom.net> <20200508185327.00007397@seibercom.net> <20200509063222.94d762e9751a32c693d73d2f@sohara.org> <20200509062517.00002c46@seibercom.net> <20200509121604.b385c38e8ad5518c9a571ef2@sohara.org> <20200509135024.d3ace507.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200509085553.00006a3a@seibercom.net> <20200509173218.7c1bec97.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200509125203.000036a2@seibercom.net> <20200509200216.10081e72@archlinux> <20200509160537.000068b7@seibercom.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49KK813k8pz4K9d X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.32 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 20:49:53 -0000 On Sat, 9 May 2020 16:05:37 -0400 Jerry wrote: > If Gates and Jobs were never born, it > might have been decades before home PC's became a reality, but we will > never know for certain. Oh we can be, there were home PCs before either of them started in business, they went into business to go after a market that was already there and expanding fast. Once CP/M opened up the small business market it was a dead cert that IBM would go there sooner or later. Microsoft only got big because they were the ones IBM went to for an OS without that deal Microsoft would have faded away and the IBM PC would have run CP/M-86 or something completely different. The factors driving the rise of the home and small business microprocessor based computer was the availability of microprocessors and associated components and Moore's law. There were plenty of people in the game, someone else would have risen to the top. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith