From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Feb 28 22:12:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA24140 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 22:12:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA24091; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 22:11:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06418; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:41:36 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA04516; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:41:35 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980301164135.54221@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:41:35 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: zjhh2@etsu.edu Cc: Sue Blake , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jhhiggins@prodigy.net Subject: Re: newbies mailing list References: <19980301161407.25838@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from James on Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 01:03:15AM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 1 March 1998 at 1:03:15 -0500, James wrote: > > > On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> On Sun, 1 March 1998 at 16:22:32 +1100, Sue Blake wrote: >>> On Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 01:32:34PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: >>>> On Sun, 1 March 1998 at 10:56:51 +1100, Sue Blake wrote: >> >>> Another aspect of inappropriate newbie behaviour is their >>> preparedness to blame themselves whether or not that is warranted, >> >> Occasionally. Usually those people aren't the rank newbies, rather >> people who could benefit from -questions. >> >>> and then toggle into defensive mode when made to feel small. >> >> Yes, Real Hackers never get defensive. > > Not all people are hackers, there are some people that just want to use > the system, not develop something new and nifty. I think you missed the implied smily. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message