From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 10:51:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BF237B401 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 10:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from svaha.com (svaha.com [64.46.156.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8624D43F85 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 10:51:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from meconlen@obfuscated.net) Received: from obfuscated.net (internal.neutelligent.com [64.156.25.4]) (AUTH: LOGIN meconlen, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by svaha.com with esmtp; Thu, 07 Aug 2003 13:51:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3F32919F.7050007@obfuscated.net> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 13:51:27 -0400 From: Michael Conlen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mykroft Holmes IV References: <3F326499.50501@401.cx> <0D9C0182-C8F5-11D7-A4DD-0030656DD690@foolishgames.com> <20030807171841.GA1327@polands.org> <3F3290BF.8010208@explosive.mail.net> In-Reply-To: <3F3290BF.8010208@explosive.mail.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISPs blocking SMTP connections from dynamic IP address space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 17:51:32 -0000 Mykroft Holmes IV wrote: > These Residential/Dynamic blocks are usually reversed. And they cause > the vast majority of problems that originate in North America. > Frankly, alot of people simply blacklist 24.* for this reason. > > If your provider's mail servers suck, and they have blocks tagged as > Dynamic, and you have no other options, it's time to make a deal with > someone to relay your mail for you. I've been trying to stay out of this as it has little relation to FreeBSD anymore, but blocking 24/8 is simply a bad idea. It's cable modem space, not dynamic space. There are a lot of static cable modems that are used at businesses. I've been working on the design of a server based categorization filter to be used with IMAP as a local delivery agent on a UNIX system. The idea is to use something like the Baysean filter to guess which of your email folders mail goes in to. If one of them is Junk mail, there's your spam filter. It would also filter all emails from questions@freebsd.org in to the same folder I've put all the other emails from the list. I'm looking in to which slgorithm to use at this point, as there are several that do the same as the Baysean approach and some are supposedly better at it. This filter has the advantage of being server based, but user tunable. It will require considerable resources to run as it will require knowing the statistics of all your email that you've ever received (at least since you started using it), so either it requires that you save all your email or it stores token values (and values for strings of tokens) in a database. There's even going to be a way to age values so that as spam evolves it keeps up with it. -- Michael Conlen