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[174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n13sm5198117qtf.15.2020.05.09.14.31.17 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 09 May 2020 14:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (hp-envy.seibercom.net [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49KL3m2Nkzz1Z0M for ; Sat, 9 May 2020 17:31:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 17:31:08 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Microsoft Teams for Linux Message-ID: <20200509173108.0000067c@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20200509231440.38c849d6.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20200508113438.00006adc@seibercom.net> <20200508185327.00007397@seibercom.net> <20200509063222.94d762e9751a32c693d73d2f@sohara.org> <20200509062517.00002c46@seibercom.net> <20200509121604.b385c38e8ad5518c9a571ef2@sohara.org> <20200509135024.d3ace507.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200509085553.00006a3a@seibercom.net> <20200509173218.7c1bec97.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200509125203.000036a2@seibercom.net> <20200509231440.38c849d6.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/3DzgfJt.K2dwLF_pyzwFv3P"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49KL3q73pnz4MPM X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=lSe7cd+b; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.40)[ip: (-6.18), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[250.225.109.174.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[a.2.f.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.32 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 21:31:21 -0000 --Sig_/3DzgfJt.K2dwLF_pyzwFv3P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 9 May 2020 23:14:40 +0200, Polytropon commented: >You are missing two very important alternatives: > > 4) Ignore it > > 5) Delegate it > >Those two cases can even be combined: Let someone else solve >the problem, while you tell everyone how easy it was. It is >a common method of "goal-oriented users" who do not want to >deal with the problems they're encountering. I think this does >not fit within one of the three options you mentioned... I refer to that as, "Passing the Buck." Losers do that everyday of the week. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/3DzgfJt.K2dwLF_pyzwFv3P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl63IRwACgkQOHMGOIfe xWQt5gf+NwdPrjOm9J5RQx287Thrlge4bpE/2Q67NCpKzpvRg2P3Ab69HVS32b3T B+bdrif5Ul0C29MSGBcDi9GK5Cal2kBVCD6i44CVzt+gTXCeJ6YeAGwJVDsZ7iRk UGKF8yaPP9K6Q6JBu0NI2GFWO2SWnR4eZXEwJM5Xi02XwxUzjDIYOxjivef9IpO/ yE15sL38/210xYmZI4AcLphVKxPb5zz/Dwh3D4J0AiJsPOFojONS4A3c+k9PUwlh 3WGDAWWhv3G8WqCcLVz7pp1IhyjzdbaO/HvoCx1Z26HZhjtNN3qrwYHMjAEZvuA+ zpbrgnEiTPfE+cKpZgA2jjDnhFzRhw== =QMnR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/3DzgfJt.K2dwLF_pyzwFv3P--