From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 01:23:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2365116A417 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:23:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from smtpclu-2.EUnet.yu (smtpclu-2.eunet.yu [194.247.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DBD13C461 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:23:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlecic@EUnet.yu) Received: from nyx.localhost (adsl-221-254.eunet.yu [213.198.221.254]) by smtpclu-2.EUnet.yu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l7O1MrZh009078; Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:22:54 +0200 Message-Id: <200708240122.l7O1MrZh009078@smtpclu-2.EUnet.yu> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:17:54 +0200 From: Nikola Lecic To: Paul Schmehl In-Reply-To: <3C597D5B83F708C2E8D52922@utd59514.utdallas.edu> References: <20070823131957.GA35322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <200708232006.47499.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <48424AE4482EFBB0113C8C96@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <200708232237.53712.freebsd01@dgmm.net> <3C597D5B83F708C2E8D52922@utd59514.utdallas.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-EUNET-AVAS-Milter-Version: 2.0.0 X-AVAS-Virus-Status: clean X-AVAS-Spamd-Symbols: BAYES_50,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-AVAS-Spam-Score: 0.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spammers harvesting emaill address from this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:23:07 -0000 On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:00:20 -0500 Paul Schmehl wrote: > Of course it does, because it requires no work on your part. It's > always "better" if you can get someone else to expend energy on your > behalf while you sit back and reap the benefits. That's why > unthinking people love socialism. Uhuhuh, you confused pure laziness with socialism (philosophical surely, historic implementations partially). Open source is very much like philosophical socialism as described by XIX- and XX-century philosophers: if you don't like the way things are done (e.g. how the road in front of your house looks like), please _do_ help: take a shovel, hammer, and _do_ (really, physically do) something. Similarly, please sit at your keyboard and do real programming. But _don't_ do two things: (1) don't pay, because someone will repair the road for you (the same as with microsoft) =3D you will _do_ nothing, the road won't be your work, but the work of others; (2) don't be lazy, i.e. don't wait for others to work for you as it won't happen. * Socialism (and open source and open source support groups, etc) =3D =3D insisting on both (1) and (2); * paying (as in (1)) is generally not acceptable in socialism; * paying (as in (1)) is acceptable in non-socialism (and closed source); * laziness (as in (2)) is not acceptable in both socialism and non-socialism, but * socialism sees paying (as in (1)) as a form of laziness. Important philosophical notions should be used carefully, especially if you want to degrade something. Anyway this is off-topic here. Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87