From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 30 11:19:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA7D16A422 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:19:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from bafirst.com (72-12-2-214.wan.networktel.net [72.12.2.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C83843D45 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:19:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from morando.org ([201.144.83.54]) by bafirst.com with esmtp; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 05:19:01 -0600 id 000958A6.43DDF625.00015281 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by morando.org with local; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 05:19:00 -0600 id 000CF025.43DDF624.00016FD9 Received: from dsl-201-154-70-101.prod-infinitum.com.mx (dsl-201-154-70-101.prod-infinitum.com.mx [201.154.70.101]) by mail.encontacto.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jan 2006 05:18:59 -0600 Message-ID: <20060130051859.rhe6tai280wwkgk4@mail.encontacto.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 05:18:59 -0600 From: eculp@encontacto.net To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20060129122806.4e58ae2d.dick@nagual.st> <43DCB258.70304@freebsd.org> <20060129220456.01f68e6f.jylefort@FreeBSD.org> <43DD3EB3.9070407@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <43DD3EB3.9070407@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1-cvs) Subject: Re: gamin vs fam X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:19:03 -0000 Quoting Michael Nottebrock : > Jean-Yves Lefort schrieb: > >> The first part of your statement is not right. Gamin has been >> successfully tested by a considerable number of GNOME users during the >> last 9 months or so. > > My statement was about flipping the USE_FAM default and it is obviously > correct: > > - Nobody checked for ports that depend on fam directly (instead of using > USE_FAM). > > - FAM_SYSTEM_FAM and FAM_SYSTEM_GAMIN use the same dependency file, > meaning that on systems that already had fam installed, portupgrade will > now register dependencies on gamin without actually installing it, > leaving most users and portupgrade confused. > > - Gamin still only implements a subset of fam's functionality and until > that changes should *never* become the default -> POLA. > > Quite frankly, I think whoever in portmgr approved this change should go > to storage, fetch themselves a nice pointy hat from storage and then > back out this mess. While this is being decided. What is the recommended work-around for those of us who depend on courier/fam and are now seeing "Stale dependency" on most kde and gnome ports when running pkgdb -F? This makes using portupgrade a bit of a hassle. Thanks, ed > Cheers, > -- > ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org > (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org > \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org > >