From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 16 19:23:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D54106566B for ; Sat, 16 May 2009 19:23:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280F18FC1D for ; Sat, 16 May 2009 19:23:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n4GJLsgj072339; Sat, 16 May 2009 15:21:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n4GJLsXI072338; Sat, 16 May 2009 15:21:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:21:54 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Mel Flynn Message-ID: <20090516192153.GA72316@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <26face530905101649kbb21d03ud620c15f16483c3f@mail.gmail.com> <200905121953.35200.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <200905151326.00824.mrkvrg@acm.org> <200905161124.43387.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200905161124.43387.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , mfv , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reading warnings when installing multiple ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 19:23:16 -0000 On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:24:42AM +0200, Mel Flynn wrote: > On Friday 15 May 2009 19:26:00 mfv wrote: > > On Tuesday 12 May 2009 13:53:35 Mel Flynn wrote: > > > On Monday 11 May 2009 15:21:24 Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > But, I very often wish there was a convenient way to see some of those > > > > messages and especially messages about things one has to do during > > > > the install, such as manually installing something or getting some > > > > license thing handled, before I start the port install. > > > > > > > > Sometimes I get a question in the middle of an install that I do not > > > > know how to answer and it is an awfully inconvenient time to have > > > > to start scrounging for information. Having a commannd that > > > > would display all those things and maybe some related information > > > > or pointers to information for making an intelligent response - before > > > > starting the make - would be very helpful. > > > > > > Do you have specific examples? Cause I can't think of anything that falls > > > under your description. > > > > Hello All, > > > > I had a recent experience with editors/openoffice.org-2. Based on past > > experience I know that the compile would take a few hours. I started make > > and left to do some chores. When I returned I discovered that the program > > had aborted as I did not have java installed and had to download a patch > > from the Sun website. > > This can and will not ever be fixed, because it's a legal and not a technical > issue. > Once you know this, you know to install diablio-jdk first, which takes 5-10 > minutes pending download speed. Yes, I know it is a legal/license issue at Sun and I sort of know to do it now, having installed OO a couple of times. But, the point was and is, it would help people if the information about having to do it would come up right at the first, so a person could have it taken care of instead of starting an install which one knows will take hours so leaves to do something else and comes back and finds the install stopped hours ago because of something that could have and should have been taken care of before actually starting the install. Some variation of this, often involving entering a 'y' or 'n' at some point in the middle of an install that could have been done causing an environmental variable or some such to be set ahead of time exists in a number of ports I have installed. It is annoying to come back from a bunch of tiring meetings only to see that an install that could be finished has several more hours to run because it was waiting all that time for a y or n. Building that improvement into ports installs and some additional why and wherefor information in the pkg-desc file or some other useful and readily available place would help the ports system. Of course, it would still be necessary to depend on the port maintainer to provide these accurately and completely. ////jerry > -- > Mel