From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 4 00:44:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51F6EF27; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 00:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx.ams1.isc.org (mx.ams1.isc.org [IPv6:2001:500:60::65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10A151060; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 00:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmx1.isc.org (zmx1.isc.org [149.20.0.20]) by mx.ams1.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5C42383B1; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 00:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marka@isc.org) Received: from zmx1.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmx1.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EF2160446; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 00:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rock.dv.isc.org (c211-30-183-50.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.183.50]) by zmx1.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CF0AE160436; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 00:51:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rock.dv.isc.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rock.dv.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988FDB13BAB; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 11:43:58 +1100 (EST) To: Mark Felder From: Mark Andrews References: <529D9CC5.8060709@rancid.berkeley.edu> <529DF7FA.7050207@passap.ru> <529E179D.7030701@rancid.berkeley.edu> <1386093454.2626.55043181.26E90FA5@webmail.messagingengine.com> Subject: Re: BIND chroot environment in 10-RELEASE...gone? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:57:34 -0600." <1386093454.2626.55043181.26E90FA5@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 11:43:58 +1100 Message-Id: <20131204004358.988FDB13BAB@rock.dv.isc.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mx.ams1.isc.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 00:44:25 -0000 In message <1386093454.2626.55043181.26E90FA5@webmail.messagingengine.com>, Mark Felder writes: > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013, at 11:40, Michael Sinatra wrote: > > > > I am going to put as many of the bits together as I can to see if I can > > recreate the chroot environment via a port on 10.0-RELEASE. I'll also > > submit a PR. But I agree with the others that this is not a good idea, > > and if I had known that the port would remove support for chroot, I > > would have vigorously protested the switch to unbound. > > > > There was no alternative; we couldn't keep BIND in base. BIND 9 will > certainly have a EoL before the EoL of FreeBSD 10.x, and we can't use > BIND 10 because it requires importing Python to base. We, ISC, don't know when BIND 9 will stop being supported so I fail to see how FreeBSD can *know* this. We have committed to 9.9.x being supported through June 2017. I suspect the last 9.X will also be supported at least that long as well. BIND 10 needs to be a functional replacement of BIND 9 before we can set a EoL on the BIND 9 project. BIND 10 isn't at that point yet. BIND 8 to BIND 9 took about 5 years after BIND 9 was a functional replacement for BIND 8 before we could actually declare it dead. I suspect BIND 9 to BIND 10 will take a similar time scale. libbind has just moved to NetBSD. Being a OSS there is nothing to stop someone picking up supporting BIND 9 when we, ISC, finally stop supporting it. > Keep in mind that Unbound is not planned to be a permanent addition to > base either. It's merely a stop-gap until Capser is complete, which will > then provide the DNS services in base. > > http://blog.des.no/2013/09/dns-again-a-clarification/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org