From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 20:56:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4A81065675 for ; Wed, 27 May 2009 20:56:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0D28FC18 for ; Wed, 27 May 2009 20:56:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4RKuG6v055072; Wed, 27 May 2009 22:56:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4RKuFMT055041; Wed, 27 May 2009 22:56:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 22:55:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Chris Knipe In-Reply-To: <20090527203000.GA1328@fusion.opticnetworks.net> Message-ID: References: <6C96EEF057EDE24197FECB0D1EA035044A8F6EB461@h1341255.aoemedia.de> <744a9119476160472a319bbc9f4fd799.squirrel@relay.lc-words.com> <065001c9def1$54ae3f40$fe0abdc0$@za.org> <20090527124014.6998139c@gom> <20090527203000.GA1328@fusion.opticnetworks.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 20:56:25 -0000 > thread is a PERFECT example there of, but there are many, many, many > threads that got COMPLETELY derailed because someone said the smallest little > thing that annoyed someone else. GROW UP PEOPLE FFS. no matter what you think and what your opinion is, you will always find part of forum users to be what you said. It's natural with unmoderated forums! > If you want the world to believe you have a mature OS, *ACT* like you have > a mature OS... and it is. > Why am I still here, replying, reading? Because, I'm INTERESTED. Me too. Very interested to be able to get help and give help about FreeBSD. Once again - please do moderated forum that posting rules will be - post ONLY about FreeBSD. FreeBSD == what is created by FreeBSD fundation and contributors. This means - base system+port system. And mean for example that: 1)" I do want to switch from Windows to FreeBSD and install KDE. How to do it. Or maybe GNOME is better" Moderator will delete this and reply for example "Please use KDE/gnome forums for KDE/gnome support. Please read FreeBSD handbook about how to install it. After reading it, if you have problems with installation - ask on the forum" 2) "We offer sponsoring. Our rules are........" Moderator will delete this and forward that mail to those that cares of FreeBSD foundation's finances. 3) "Is there a way to reduce the Vista to let's say 50 GByte and install FreeBSD -CURRENT in the remaining 200 GByte" Moderator will delete this and reply: "Please ask on any Windows Vista related forum about how to reduce windows partition without data loss. Then install FreeBSD as usual, creating slice on unused space. Please post if you will have troubles installing FreeBSD" -------------------------------------- O N L Y S T R I C T R U L E S W I L L G I V E H I G H Q U A L I T Y Of course present forum must be left as is, so everyone feeling "discriminated" could post freely. This rules should be CLEARLY defined, so everybody that want use moderated forum will know it, and have to obey or not use it. I don't know much about any moderating mailing lists software, but maybe just use NNTP? Excellent software is already here, and using NNTP is as very simple. Strict rules are not just needed, it's a requirement or never-ending discussion will be common as each of us have different point of view. Every computer project (and every non-computer too :) without well defined rules and ownership is just destined to fall, sooner or later. FreeBSD has at least ownership, linux don't have both.