From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 28 15:44:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE5B16A423; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:44:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sos@deepcore.dk) Received: from spider.deepcore.dk (cpe.atm2-0-53484.0x50a6c9a6.abnxx9.customer.tele.dk [80.166.201.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C3A43D78; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:44:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sos@deepcore.dk) Received: from [194.192.25.142] (spider.deepcore.dk [194.192.25.142]) by spider.deepcore.dk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jASFiGkZ056782; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:44:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos@deepcore.dk) Message-ID: <438B25D0.3050109@deepcore.dk> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:44:16 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20051013) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Cracauer References: <61FBEC57-424E-450F-A775-10E1F5E8DF92@cian.ws> <20051127215510.A17131@cons.org> <1133190443.41553.18.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> <438B1F90.3090708@FreeBSD.org> <20051128102626.A31626@cons.org> <438B22AD.2030106@deepcore.dk> <20051128103914.B31684@cons.org> In-Reply-To: <20051128103914.B31684@cons.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-mail-scanned: by DeepCore Virus & Spam killer v1.16 Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Subject: Re: Building new Athlon AMD64 Socket 939 or 940 machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:44:51 -0000 Martin Cracauer wrote: > Søren Schmidt wrote on Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 04:30:53PM +0100: > >>Martin Cracauer wrote: >> >> >>>>That used to work on my MSI nf4 board on 6.0 forward. >>> >>> >>>Can I safely test this by just plugging in a SATA cable with drive and >>>board on? >> >>define safely ? > > > Very small chance to damage port or disk. The smallest SATA drive I > have is 400 GB so I wouldn't like to risk it, not to mention my best > board. > > While SATA seems to have been designed with hot-plug capabilities in > mind, it is unclear to me whether the normal SATA cabeling is actually > implementing this. The cables seem to be designed to reliably connect > ground first when plugging in, so the answer might be yes. I thought > you might know. That should be perfectly safe yes. The SATA connector was designed with this in mind including the power connector. However, some SATA drives also has the old 4 pin power connector, that one is by no definition safe to hotplug... -Søren