From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Aug 21 11: 8:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.occa.home.com (ha1.rdc2.occa.home.com [24.2.8.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8F514CE0 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:08:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbettle@criterion-group.com) Received: from criterion-group.com ([24.5.44.161]) by mail.rdc2.occa.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19990821180841.OMQS7447.mail.rdc2.occa.home.com@criterion-group.com>; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:08:41 -0700 Message-ID: <37BEEC31.B12CA56F@criterion-group.com> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:13:05 -0700 From: Roy Bettle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: paksao , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: outlook alternative for freeBSD ? References: <37BEA75F.5875AB0C@home.com> <001f01beebe0$3e489b60$01010101@bopper> <37BECB5E.D275A502@home.com> <001901beebfb$204d2d40$01010101@bopper> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As to the integrated calendar/scheduling part, don't forget that NetScape Communicator 4.x includes integrated calendaring and scheduling. As to the integrated "Office"-like apps, C|NET - http://www.cnet.com - did a review a few months back that compared MS Office with a lot of other "business productivity suites", many of whom had Open Source-compatible versions. I'd give you the direct URL to the article but I'm on the phone just now so this note is about all I can manage! RAB "Bill A. K." wrote: > I am refering to StarOffice and things like that for the Office > compatibility. I think there is one other one besides StarOffice that I am > thinking of, but I don't know the name of it off hand. The Outlook like > thing is tough, but isin't there an integrated office/calendar/scheduling > thing in the ports collection (if you don't know, thats at > http://www.freebsd.org/ports). I believe it might be koffice. > > I'll do some lookng and if i come up with anything i'll be sure to let you > know. > > Bill > billieakay@yahoo.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: paksao > To: Bill A. K. > Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 11:53 AM > Subject: Re: outlook alternative for freeBSD ? > > > > > > > "Bill A. K." wrote: > > > > > > ok, have you considered just using plain old Netscape Mail which comes > with > > > Netscape Communicator? > > > > Some of the users use Netscape mail already . The new manager thinks > > that the other outlook functions scheduling meetings, journal, calendar > > will increase productivity. ( I tend to find that stuff more annoying > > but useful but some people like it.) > > > > > > There are UNIX/BSD alternatives to MS Office, some of which can even > read > > > the office files (i think) > > > > Are you thinking about koffice? > > > > > How much money can you spend is the big question? > > > > Money is a object but I figured that after I prove I can do what Outlook > > does I can spend 5 K for the software and probably another few k for a > > server. ( I am pulling number outof the air because I have even begun to > > price outlook and the NT server to support it. ) I know I'm going to > > need additional copies of officew/outlook shortly so know that I can get > > the budget as long as it works, works as wellas outlook and costs are > > comparable. ( and for me it has to be able to run on a Freebsd box with > > MS clients. > > > Let me know and i'll see if i can help you any more > > > > > > Bill > > > billieakay@yahoo.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: paksao > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 9:19 AM > > > Subject: outlook alternative for freeBSD ? > > > > > > > I've been playing with freeBsd for a while now at work and I like it > and > > > > I'm just starting to get to the point where I understand how it works > > > > but I am facing a crisis and I don't have time to search out the > > > > solution from the man pages and my friends who use BSD don't know the > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > A new manager has come in and he likes MS outlook he thinks it is the > > > > way the company should go with email and inter-office communications > and > > > > email. he also likes NT( He never administered it but he considers > > > > himself an expert). After using it as a (fileserver/PDC for 3 yrs I > > > > don't though it may be a function of my not having configured it > > > > correctly. My heart hasn't been in it though I have done a lot of > > > > reading and brought a lot of books.) I have plans to switch over to a > > > > freeBSD 3.2 server, with Samba as a PDC and Run our main database on a > > > > Linux box using Oracle 8. > > > > > > > > But In order to keep from being saddled with another NT server( when I > > > > want to get rid of the one I have now.) I need to provide an > alternative > > > > to the Outlook proposal and hopefully a cost effective one. > > > > > > > > I think I have enough pull to get a freebsd proposal accepted but I > need > > > > some help figuring out how to implement it or even if it is possible > > > > within a reasonable timeframe. > > > > > > > > additional background > > > > -company has 35 employees will expand to 65 in the next year. > > > > - I am the IS department > > > > - my users don't know Unix,bsd and are only reasonable competent in > > > > windows. > > > > -for email we use Eudora 3.0 and Netscape 4.5 on the workstations but > > > > if the have to learn outlook they can learn to use something else > > > > though they are going to need to have a GUI > > > > -office 97 is the current office suite mostly word, exceland access > > > > - I've done 3 installs ( 2 2.2.8 with xwindows,KDE,samba and 1 3.2 > that > > > > is as yet unconfigured) > > > > -the users are using windows NT ws,windows 95 and windows 98 > > > > -workstations are shared forthe most part and the user should be able > > > > to access their files email and hte internet from any work station > > > > > > > > So my questions are: > > > > > > > > Has anybody done this? (Used freebsd to provide an effective > alternative > > > > to NT/Outlook.) > > > > > > > > How would you suggest I go about it? The field is preetty much wide > open > > > > since I would be starting from scratch ( I would need to buy hardware > > > > and software.) > > > > > > > > Is there commercial or opensource workgroup software for freebsd? > > > > > > > > I probably left some important details out so feel free to contact me > > > > for clarifiction. > > > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- RAB Roy Bettle President, Criterion Group http://www.criterion-group.com rbettle@criterion-group.com (949) 452-1203 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message