From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 13:44:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C4B16A810 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA22943D64 for ; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:44:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D5C46B24; Mon, 15 May 2006 09:44:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:44:56 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Rostislav Krasny In-Reply-To: <20060515150504.44b3a065.rosti.bsd@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060515143905.L38871@fledge.watson.org> References: <20060515150504.44b3a065.rosti.bsd@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Andrew Turner Subject: Re: BSDInstaller snapshot X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:45:04 -0000 Before adding some of my own user interface critiques, I wanted to mention at the top of the e-mail that I'm very pleased the BSD installer work is going on, it's well overdue! Onto a few minor criticisms :-). On Mon, 15 May 2006, Rostislav Krasny wrote: > http://people.freebsd.org/~julian/bsdinstaller_install/16.png I'd like to see the partition type here simply be "FreeBSD". "Drago" is likely to confuse, and Dragonfly actually uses the FreeBSD type, rather than it being the Dragonfly type. See further comments below on slices and partitions. > http://people.freebsd.org/~julian/bsdinstaller_install/24.png > http://people.freebsd.org/~julian/bsdinstaller_install/25.png > > I think the word "formatted" on the second screenshot should be changed to > "created", because fdisk doesn't format partitions/slices. I tend to agree. While there is some benefit in using the DOS/Windows vocabulary, I think it's better to use the same vocabulary as found in existing FreeBSD documentation, including the handbook, man pages, printed books, etc. In these dialogs, the device names should also be specifically mentioned. Note that "Primary partition" is a confusing term -- I'm not sure what it means, actually :-). > > http://people.freebsd.org/~julian/bsdinstaller_install/22.png > http://people.freebsd.org/~julian/bsdinstaller_install/26.png > > Does BSDInstaller support installtion on multiple slices or multiple > physical disks? Sysinstall supports it. While I recognize the goal of providing a useful mapping to user-aware notions, such as "partitions", I find the message in this dialog confusing even as someone who in theory knows something about the topic. Despite the limitations of calling fdisk partitions slices in sysinstall, at least it was done mostly sort of consistently :-). I'd like to see the installe consistently refer to "fdisk slices" and "bsd partitions", and avoid using the words "slice" or "partition" in isolation. A dialog to explain slices and partitions before the editor might be appropriate. Robert N M Watson