From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 23 18:55:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E9E37B406 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:55:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04062; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 19:55:11 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011023174335.04395b50@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 17:47:35 -0600 To: Doug Barton , yvan From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Religion: islam is not what you think... Look at yourself first. Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3BD5B60C.849FE82D@DougBarton.net> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010924170815.0180aee8@threespace.com> <20010925001027.A750@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20011003210717.0442cb20@localhost> <20011004132949.D16297@lpt.ens.fr> <20011019154414.A43110@moondog.org> <3BD1CCC8.6923E04F@mindspring.com> <002301c15bb5$281a6070$b227c6d4@C> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:25 PM 10/23/2001, Doug Barton wrote: > I haven't seen anyone claim that. All human civilizations, past and >present, have committed atrocities, frequently in the name of some >religion or another. Those religions shouldn't be judged by the actions >of people who commit horrible crimes ostensibly in their name. I disagree. Religions that explicitly command their followers to commit horrible crimes absolutely should -- in fact, MUST -- be condemned. If they are not, any killer can claim that he or she is exempt from fundamental human ethical and moral codes due to his or her religion. To cite one example: Suppose that I declared myself to be a Thuggee. Would I then be justified in committing ritual murder because it was required by my religion? --Brett Glass To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message