From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Sep 30 08:03:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15803 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:03:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15796 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:03:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22739; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: spork cc: "Carlos C. Tapang" , John Birrell , Greg Lehey , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What would it take to build the FreeBSD kernel into Portable Executable (PE) format? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:25:12 EDT." Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:51:45 -0700 Message-ID: <22735.907167105@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Comeon now, you folks haven't seen SoftWindows on an Ultra? Runs all the > office apps, Outlook, and other "corporate communications" apps fine. > Same with the Mac. You come on now, that's a rather different class of application than writing an OS simulation layer for the Win32 environment. The SoftWindows / SoftPC dealies emulate an entire virtual machine so of course they "succeed" somewhat more than those groups who attempt to make it all run side-by-side on a single virtual machine. :-) I've heard that the SoftPC solutions are getting faster now with JIT machine-code translators and other such techniques for making emulation of the target machine a lot less expensive, but that doesn't seem to be the direction any of the free emulator projects (like Bochs) have taken yet. If you want an exercise in severe pain, go set up a Win95 environment under Bochs (www.freebsd.org/~jkh/do-this-m$!.jpg) and run your Outlook application under that for starters. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message