From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 3 05:16:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1104916A41F for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 05:16:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterclutton@gmail.com) Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9207C43D45 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 05:16:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterclutton@gmail.com) Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s9so468565wxc for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:16:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Uqc7AlG9j/vNMmb8CfcrB/aQYeQbf96tHabeSa+1xoxU8UdM3uJreOLYYTKwnMbRwpwNGdiZ3+FJ7dwAki2fSu0vnFzQmuLKXyZC+iQkqsSek0iRM6usXvLIrhkpGCtwM1/YvyQYV4/Oho2tnC/2hM/7qgsliRCVHOB1WYKQOFY= Received: by 10.70.65.17 with SMTP id n17mr311724wxa; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.91.17 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 21:10:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57416b300511022110lae0d75ar248f2c8036967f50@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 16:10:03 +1100 From: Peter Clutton To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051102061528.GC1349@wantadilla.lemis.com> Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: New Logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 05:16:36 -0000 On 11/2/05, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey [mailto:grog@FreeBSD.org] > >Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:15 PM > >To: Ted Mittelstaedt > >Cc: Free BSD Questions list > >Subject: Re: New Logo > > > > > >On Tuesday, 1 November 2005 at 21:48:57 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> [missing attribution to Greg Lehey] > >>> On Tuesday, 1 November 2005 at 14:15:30 -0800, Ted > >Mittelstaedt wrote: > >>>> On Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:32 PM, Chad Leigh wrote: > > >> And I suspect the majority of people are of the same mind. Quite > >> obviously, the boot-lickers of the conservative right don't understand > >> this > >> - my choice of language was intended to knock some sense in to them. > Greg, I don't know why I bother even trying to be nice to you, you > can be such a puffed up crumb when you want to be. > > >And now would you please shut up? > >Yes, there are others on the list who are behaving just as badly as > >you. > > Your opinion, they probably wouldn't agree. If you decide Beastie isn't > important enough to bother defending, that's your choice. Of course I > will note that you had no problem getting the attention for your books > by using Beastie images on their covers. You are embarrassing yourself. Greg is a great contributor to freebsd, who also just made probably the first mature post on this topic. Making it a personal attack makes you look like a baby. I hope some of the people acting the same way aren't representative of the freebsd community. So much is said about the mature community of freebsd and so much derision often directed to linux script kiddies. Well this post makes me long to read a list of slashdot replies. And if you're referring using the beastie on his book The Complete FreeBSD, I hardly think it was responsible for it's success. Might have something to do with being one of the best books on FreeBSD sysadmin out there at the moment. Can't comment on his other books, haven't read them. Anyway I'm sure he could defend himself, not that he needs to. The point is, why is everyone making things personal? Like a personal attack on the artist who made the logo? If you don't like a piece of art, or music, it doesn't mean the artist or composer is a loser, it's just your personal opinion. If you say you don't like it, people respect your opinion. If you make an unnecessary, scathing, frothing at the mouth personal attack, people realise you must have some vested interest that makes you so critical.