From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 7 23:55:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E493916A4DD for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2006 23:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A49C43D80 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2006 23:55:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from [66.92.151.194] (june.chuckr.org [66.92.151.194]) by april.chuckr.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k97NSFQg075209; Sat, 7 Oct 2006 19:28:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Message-ID: <45285554.9050802@chuckr.org> Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 21:33:08 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.5) Gecko/20060901 SeaMonkey/1.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com References: <20061007184515.GE65461@dan.emsphone.com> <452837d9.52OZSBB03ZtcOtzk%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <452837d9.52OZSBB03ZtcOtzk%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ahze@ahze.net, dnelson@allantgroup.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: POE networking, what's the range? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 23:55:24 -0000 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >>> ... does anyone know the range of Power Over Ethernet? I want >>> something to go from my house to my garage apartment then hook >>> a wireless access point in to the POE box. The garage and the >>> house are on their own power circuit but where the lines split >>> is in between the house and the garage. I'm thinking it'll be >>> around 600ft plus all the wiring in the house and garage. >>> > > The garage and the house are over 1/10 of a mile apart? > > >> If your garage has power, why not just plug the access point into >> an outlet in the garage instead of pulling power all the way from >> the house? >> > > There can be some significant safety issues in stringing copper > between buildings, especially over significant distances and if > the building grounds are not interbonded. I'd encourage the O.P. > to first consult a local electrical inspector, or an electrician > who is familiar with the local conditions and safety codes. Yes, > I know this is not mains power, but hazards exist with signal > wiring as well. > > I don't know the numbers either, but you should let him know the basic facts of the Ethernet environment: it's not power limited, it's TIME limited. The signal power goes down at a relatively low rate over distance, but the time that the ethernet signal takes to transit, that's a key limiter. You see, Ethernet is a protocol that relies on a bunch of time-relationships, both to support stuff like direct error control, but of most importance, in supporting the detection of collision occurrence (Ethernet allows signal collisions by being VERY good at detecting and handling such items). The way you figure limitations on ethernet is, you get tables of how fast your signal propagates over the cable you've chosen, and see if your cable allows your signal to get that far in that much time. It's the time that's key. If (now that I've probably embarrassed some of the walking encyclopedias we have around here) you come up with the kind of cable you have, we could very easily look into a table and tell you how much your setup will allow you. If you don't get an answer by tomorrow, I think I could probably find it here somewhere, with enough of a lookup. Don't bother the fellows with power numbers, that will only confuse the issue, believe me, power has nothing to do with it. > One alternative would be to track down a couple of fiber > adapters, and string (non-conductive) fiber instead of copper. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >