From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jul 22 02:02:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA17388 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:02:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from notabene.zer0.org (sac-port55.jps.net [209.63.114.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA17358 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:02:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter@n1.dyn.ml.org) Received: (from gsutter@localhost) by notabene.zer0.org (8.8.7/8.8.8) id CAA16946; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:03:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter) Message-ID: <19980722020343.C15764@notabene.zer0.org> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:03:43 -0700 From: Gregory Sutter To: Wes Peters Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "Open Source Town Meeting" supports only one faction References: <19980721184615.A15764@notabene.zer0.org> <199807220608.AAA00964@obie.softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: <199807220608.AAA00964@obie.softweyr.com>; from Wes Peters on Wed, Jul 22, 1998 at 12:08:59AM -0600 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jul 22, 1998 at 12:08:59AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > > Gregory S. Sutter recently uttered: > > I disagree with you. The FSF doesn't oppose Open Source software > > any more than Linux opposes FreeBSD. > > You OBVIOUSLY haven't read anything written by RMS, including most > of the political diatributes included with every piece of FSF code > you get. > > I use, and appreciate, Emacs, GCC, GDB, etc., just as much as the > next guy, but Stallman's rantings about software hoarding are just > so much communist drivel. I _have_ read several of RMS's essays as well as the diatribes, as you (mean to) say, that come with FSFware. I don't really consider what RMS says as "ranting" and I worry about your seemingly- automatic association of "communist" with "drivel". First of all, it's not communist, it's socialist. Second, socialism, while idealistic to the extreme (at least when compared to our present form of societal management), is hardly drivel. Indeed, _in the ideal_, I can hardly think of a better form of society. While some of RMS's ideas are definitely on the edge of acceptability, you can't deny that he has some fantastic thoughts about information and property. Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter "How do I read this file?" mailto:gsutter@pobox.com "You uudecode it." http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ "I I I decode it?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message