From owner-freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 16:19:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F54C70E for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elektropost.org (elektropost.org [217.115.13.199]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7EFF996A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:19:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 85695 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2015 16:19:06 -0000 Received: from elektropost.org (HELO elektropost.org) (erdgeist@erdgeist.org) by elektropost.org with ESMTPS (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted); 28 Jan 2015 16:19:06 -0000 Message-ID: <54C90BF7.2050402@erdgeist.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:19:03 +0100 From: Dirk Engling User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wishmaster , Warren Block Subject: Re: preferred jail management tool References: <20150127012347.GA4940@lonesome.com> <20150127141239.V77290@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <54C71BC9.5010103@freebsd.org> <1422460591.608730864.q8oky1s8@frv34.fwdcdn.com> In-Reply-To: <1422460591.608730864.q8oky1s8@frv34.fwdcdn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion about FreeBSD jail\(8\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:19:11 -0000 On 28.01.15 17:11, wishmaster wrote: > This is not killer feature, this something "imperfection" (sorry, > Dirk. Without insults). No offense taken. Everyone has their own requirements and we worked out that you are not the run-of-the-mill ezjail customer. Fine. No need to convince others that your use case is the only valid one, though. I still think that the FHS has defined a decent line for what in a FreeBSD installation is static shareable and can be provided read only to all jails. If you have actual users with their own requirements you want to contain in a jail, they DO expect a vanilla installation to do their stuff with. And this is what ezjail was built for originally. erdgeist