From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 23 19: 8:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5854B37B405; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 19:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA04291; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 20:08:40 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011023200438.04daac60@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 20:08:38 -0600 To: Greg Lehey From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Course of law (was: Islam (was: Religions (was Re: helping victims of terror))) Cc: Stephen McKay , chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20011024093452.B28396@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011023103803.04978a90@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20011021172133.04293620@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20011020213927.048a1780@localhost> <1003617187.3bd1fba3d31ff@webmail.neomedia.it> <1003617187.3bd1fba3d31ff@webmail.neomedia.it> <4.3.2.7.2.20011020213927.048a1780@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20011021172133.04293620@localhost> <200110231322.f9NDMTf21954@dungeon.home> <4.3.2.7.2.20011023103803.04978a90@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:04 PM 10/23/2001, Greg Lehey wrote: >> However, when met with deadly force while attempting to apprehend >> criminals, the government does have the right to respond with deadly >> force. > >Ah. Where does that right come from? In the constitution? The constitutions (or equivalent documents) of all democratic governments accord them the right to keep the peace and apprehend criminals. And rightly so. >Are there >laws in place which define when this right applies, and what "deadly >force" means? In every democracy of which I am aware. >Does "attempting to apprehend criminals" include >driving tanks into towns and firing at random? No. And the Israelis are not doing that. The Egyptians did when they attacked Israel in 1967 (which is why Israel, justifiably, took the West Bank and Gaza... and kept them until it foolishly began ceding territory to terrorists in a misguided program of appeasement). --Brett Glass To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message