From owner-cvs-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 3 09:11:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: cvs-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8228F16A40F; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F2143D46; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:11:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 3767942C9; Fri, 3 Nov 2006 03:11:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 03:11:16 -0600 To: Maxim Sobolev Message-ID: <20061103091116.GA16397@soaustin.net> References: <200611030351.kA33peWQ061783@repoman.freebsd.org> <20061103061317.GB64699@qlovarnika.bg.datamax> <454ADF4A.5080201@FreeBSD.org> <20061103064819.GA64957@qlovarnika.bg.datamax> <454AE6B2.70702@FreeBSD.org> <20061103070602.GA65515@qlovarnika.bg.datamax> <454AEF2B.1000007@FreeBSD.org> <20061103080328.GA73249@qlovarnika.bg.datamax> <454AFBD1.7000503@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <454AFBD1.7000503@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: vd@FreeBSD.org, cvs-ports@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, ports-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/devel/mpatrol Makefile ports/devel/mpatrol/files patch-..::..::src::mptrace.c X-BeenThere: cvs-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:11:25 -0000 On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 12:20:33AM -0800, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > I can just easy to back out this paragraph as it went in, so what? I > suspect that nobody would notice. Um, that's completely crazy. If you go back and check the mailing lists, you will find an incredible level of screaming and yelling over this exact issue. What we have now is the result of portmgr making a decision that would anger the least number of people, and which the most of the other people could live with. There was no "complete consensus" possible, so there was nothing else to do except for portmgr to say "this is now what we are going to do". If we changed it now, *everyone* would notice, and the screaming and yelling would be twice as bad. > It is not going nowhere. You are trying to enforce some rules that you > have no right to enforce. And that the whole point of this discussion. I > am sorry, but but the fact that somebody committed some questionable > words into porters handbook doesn't mean that it's official. But I'm sorry, this means that you missed out on about 2 months of heated discussion that resulted in this text, and only this text, being placed into the Porter's Handbook. If you did not participate in that discussion, there's nothing I, or anyone else, can do about it now. This is one of those complete no-win situations; but, at some point, someone has to make a decision and just say "this is the way we are going to do things from now on". That has already happened. mcl