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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p36sm825467yhe.20.2012.08.06.05.16.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 06 Aug 2012 05:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3WrHsL3fqRz2CG67 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 08:16:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 08:16:38 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120806081638.1033190a@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120805214321.17a02e43@papi> References: <20120805045800.29444.qmail@joyce.lan> <20510.27576.562781.36878@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120805093320.7b7f0fc4@scorpio> <20120805214321.17a02e43@papi> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmbRJTdMvSu5WUNGmXpdsUE1V7lRF11Jxf7qiCG2K8ySxD9Lomt70lgWojsybprXp2iQjhW Subject: Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 12:16:43 -0000 On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 21:43:21 -0300 Mario Lobo articulated: > On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 09:33:20 -0400 > Jerry wrote: > > > On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 08:48:56 -0400 > > Robert Huff articulated: > > > [Snip] > > > The socialists still feel they are entitled to something > > for nothing. > > > Jerry; > > Forgive me for barging in like this but to me, what your sentence > describes is just plain good old greedy people. Patents provided > the perfect LEGAL way for these very people to make theirs, an idea > that they didn't think of or had the gift/talent to create, as a > quickie for profit. The result: Now the long patent arm reaches > fruit, seeds and DNA. This means that I can't "create" a Graviola > juice drink (local Brazilian fruit) because a Japanese guy patented > the fruit !! How ridiculous did we allowed this to get? Yes you can. You are stating a commonly held incorrect belief. You can always request a license from the patient holder. No one, well no one interested in monetary compensation would patient anything unless they were: ⁽¹⁾ Intended to use the patents in such a way that they would directly profit from it ⁽²⁾ Intended to lease the patent rights or outright sell the patent. Patients protect hard working people who may work years, maybe half their life to come up with a killer idea only to have a douche bag come along and use it sans payments. Interestingly enough, you seem to equate an entity, individual, group or corporation that want to profit off of their work and investment as greedy. I call them entitled. With that said, feel free to develop some great idea and then give it away for nothing. No one, certainly not me, is going to stop you. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________