From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 18:33:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B015516A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:33:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net (firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F1F43FE0 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:33:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from richardcoleman@mindspring.com) Received: from titan.criticalmagic.com ([68.213.16.23] helo=mindspring.com) by firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AN16I-0004HE-00; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:32:50 -0800 Message-ID: <3FBD7957.7050602@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:32:55 -0500 From: Richard Coleman Organization: Critical Magic, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "boyd, rounin" References: <2147483647.1069240727@[192.168.42.6]> <20031120095214.GA68334@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <050d01c3afa8$1dfb97a0$b9844051@insultant.net> <156539179.20031121001033@andric.com> <061f01c3afbd$4692a040$b9844051@insultant.net> <20031120234148.GC12532@aurema.com> <064401c3afc1$6e2b8280$b9844051@insultant.net> In-Reply-To: <064401c3afc1$6e2b8280$b9844051@insultant.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 1ee258965991efcb0865379cdb43356e5e89bb4777695beb702e37df12b9c9ef27f2407d1b667c4980948f8fc630ad17350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: Dimitry Andric cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: richardcoleman@mindspring.com List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 02:33:09 -0000 boyd, rounin wrote: > From: "Christopher Vance" > >>Personally, I think init should be static, and can't think of any way >>it would benefit from shared libraries. > > > plan 9 has everything static. the kernel compiles in about 20 seconds > or less -- no compression -- and you can boot it off a floppy. > > if i can sit in /sys/src and type: > > mk install > > and have everything re-built (and i could do it for all the supported > architectures) in minutes i have eliminated unnecessary complexity. > > if it's not there, it can't break. > > > btw: say hi to maltby for me. plan9 doesn't count. It's so minimalistic, it's useless. It has many beautiful and brilliant ideas. But it's not useful to many people as a production system. It's a shame, really. Richard Coleman richardcoleman@mindspring.com