From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 21 2:40:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6E337B406 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:40:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f5L9ekl75131; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:40:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Cc: , Subject: RE: IEEE Journalist looking for facts about Microsoft use of BSD code Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 02:40:46 -0700 Message-ID: <001901c0fa36$3f7cdee0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20010621093101.9AC701FA222@deborah.paradise.net.nz> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :-) It just occurred to me - do you suppose that Microsoft actually uses Visual C++ for compiling their own code? I remember a number of years ago I worked at Symantec after it acquired Central Point. At the time Symantec sold a C compiler. They had been attempting to get their internal developers to standardize on this instead of other vendor's C compilers. Very few groups ever did and the ones that did were most displeased with the result. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: Richard Shea [mailto:rshea@thecubagroup.com] >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 2:31 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; s.cass@ieee.org >Subject: RE: IEEE Journalist looking for facts about Microsoft use of >BSD code > > > >> >> However, if you want something authoratative, allegedly the >> winsock.h header file for Windows contains the following: >> >> /* WINSOCK.H--definitions to be used with the WINSOCK.DLL >> * Copyright 1993 - 1998 Microsoft Corp. All rights reserved. >> * >> * This header file corresponds to version 1.1 of the Windows Sockets >> specification. >> * >> * This file includes parts which are Copyright (c) 1982-1986 Regents >> * of the University of California. All rights reserved. The >> * Berkeley Software License Agreement specifies the terms and >> * conditions for redistribution. >> */ >> >I've got Visual C++ Version 6.0 (copyright is 1998) and I can >confirm - that >notice certainly does appear in that header file ... wow do you >think I just >broke my EULA by telling you that ! > >regards >richard shea. > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >The Cuba Group >PO Box 1864 >Wellington >New Zealand > >PH +64 4 496 5205 >MO +64 21 296 6839 >FX +64 4 496 5209 >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message