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Subject: Re: Islam (was: Religions (was Re: helping victims of terror))
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At 07:20 PM 10/23/2001, T.M. Sommers wrote:

>Do you mean that Israel is not a Jewish state, 

Yes, I do mean that. Israel is a secular state. 

Israel does, of course, contain many Jews. New 
York City contains more. But this does not make 
New York a "Jewish" city.

Israel's government has representatives from both 
right-wing Jewish political parties and Muslim 
political parties.

>or that Judaism is not a religion?  

Judaism is a religion -- or, really, a group of religions.
(Reform and Reconstructionist Judaism have very little
in common with, say, Hassidism. They embrace the same
religious texts, but treat them very, very differently.
Their religious practices are, literally, worlds apart.)

--Brett


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