From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 15 18:40:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05955 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:40:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [205.153.153.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05942 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:40:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fewtch@serv.net) Received: from desktop-pentium (dialup611.serv.net [207.207.65.11]) by mx.serv.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA18419; Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980615181815.007f16b0@mx.serv.net> X-Sender: fewtch@mx.serv.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 18:18:15 -0700 To: allen campbell From: Tim Gerchmez Subject: Re: A first encounter with 'vi' Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199806150519.XAA06109@struct.> References: <3.0.5.32.19980614145301.007ed5c0@mx.serv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Power means little when it is not accompanied by at least a little ease of use/attention to user interface design (Bill Gates figured this out, and he's the richest man on the planet at this point). I could design an automobile consisting of a steel-reinforced cardboard box, a steering mechanism designed to be steered by the small toes on each foot, and steel tires, with a 1000 horsepower engine and 500 gallon gas tank hanging on the side, *VERY* powerful, you think anyone wants to drive it? It bothers me a little that longtime *nix people are so dedicated to the traditions of their OS that they are very slow to make changes. For example, why is there not something as easy to use as the Win95 editor "EDIT" (open a DOS box and type edit, or go to DOS 7.0 and type edit). Fully text-mode graphical, uses standardized keys and mouse commands the rest of the world uses, can edit multiple files, files not limited in size, etc. This is the best text-mode editor I've ever used, and it's provided by Microsoft for use on DOS. Don't tell me *nix has anything its equal in text mode - THERE IS NOTHING AS EASY TO USE AND AS POWERFUL IN TEXT MODE. Come on... I *know* BSD programmers can do better. Write a *CLONE* of the EDIT utility included with Win95 for text-mode use. An *EXACT* clone. Consider this a challenge! I don't think you can do it, MS has better programmers... (trying to piss you off enough to do it!)... At 11:19 PM 6/14/98 -0600, allen campbell wrote: >I would encourage you to approach vi >deliberately and learn the basics. Vi is a very powerful editor >and it is ubiquitous. Well worth learning by anyone involved with >Unix. > >-- > Allen Campbell > allenc@verinet.com > > -- My web site starts at http://www.serv.net/~fewtch/index.html - lots of goodies for everyone, have a look if you have the time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message