From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Jul 28 09:08:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09273 for freebsd-ports-outgoing; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:08:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09206 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:08:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (sji-ca7-188.ix.netcom.com [209.109.235.188]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21325 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/8.6.9) id JAA23186; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807281607.JAA23186@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Brian Handy on Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:44:11 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: comment on new categories? From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm going to reply to all mails at once to cut down the number of messages. * From: Brian Handy * I like the idea, the x11 directory is pretty bloated. So things like * "xcolors", "xlockmore" and friends just stay in x11? I guess so. Unless you can come up with another category to scoop them up. :) * From: Brian Handy * The only thing that bothers me about this is I sorta like seeing things of * one "group" together -- kde-* is one example. (I'd also like to see all * the p5-[bleah] ports in one directory too, but ... you can't have it all.) * But I'm not sure how I'd solve that one. Well, we can do that, but I'm not sure if that's a real good idea. For kde-*, you can already install everything by using the "kde" meta-port or -package, and you can find packages under the "kde" virtual category anyway. For p5-* stuff...well, no comment on that. ;) * From: Adrian Penisoara * I like the ideea ! I always hated to search through all the x11 category * to find some window managers... * * BTW, is it possible to make them subdirectories of x11 (I bet we can't, * but hey, why not mention it while we're still at it) ? Going to an unbalanced tree will make maintaining ports much harder. If we are going to 3 levels, we should do it all at once. There are 35 categories now, ranging from humongous (japanese: 163, games: 159, x11: 138) to tiny (german: 5, biology: 6). === ## for i in */Makefile; do printf "%-20s: " $i; grep 'SUBDIR' $i | wc -l; done | sed -e 's./Makefile..' | sort -r -n +2 japanese : 163 games : 159 x11 : 138 net : 133 devel : 117 graphics : 95 misc : 79 lang : 71 www : 68 mail : 61 print : 51 sysutils : 42 math : 39 audio : 39 editors : 37 textproc : 33 emulators : 33 security : 32 korean : 31 news : 28 chinese : 26 databases : 20 archivers : 18 comms : 17 converters : 13 cad : 11 mbone : 10 astro : 10 benchmarks : 9 russian : 8 vietnamese : 7 shells : 7 plan9 : 7 biology : 6 german : 5 === But nobody is complaining about "japanese" or "games". The problem with "x11" is that it's abused by ports that really don't belong here. * From: Thomas Gellekum * Do we need to be so terse? `x11-windowmanagers' would be fine with * me. `filemanagers' could be a broader category including some of the * filemanglers from misc (ytree, mc, ...). The only reason why I'm terse is because "x11-windowmanagers" or "filemanagers" will change the output of "ls /usr/ports" on a 80-character xterm from 3 columns to 5 columns. Going up and down the tree, that's fairly significant. But may be right, maybe we shouldn't be too terse for the sake of developers. What do others think? * While we're at it, how about a new category `office' (I think this has * been proposed before)? This could remove some clutter from `misc', * like korganizer, kproject, plan, teapot, xcalendar, xmaddressbook, * xopps and probably others. I thought those can go to "deskutils" too. I didn't like the name "office" because it conjures up images of an (in)famous product by a competing company (:) that includes stuff like word processors, spreadsheets and presentation tools, which we don't want to include in this category. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message