From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 16 04:18:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14511065672 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681698FC12 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAG4IaXB088901; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:18:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id nAG4IaFp088898; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:18:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:18:36 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20091116014149.f7d6eafd.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <42052.1258327169@tristatelogic.com> <4B009370.1040002@otenet.gr> <20091116010630.0b8f498a.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B009B08.3070507@otenet.gr> <20091116014149.f7d6eafd.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:18:36 -0700 (MST) Cc: Manolis Kiagias , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Trivial questions about CNTL-ALT-DEL and CNTL-ALT-BACKSPACE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:18:39 -0000 On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:21:28 +0200, Manolis Kiagias wrote: >> Just the fact that I now have to edit an xml file to simply add a Greek >> keyboard layout is annoying enough. > > The fact that annoys me is that configuration seems to have > disassembled into several parts that are not located in a > central file (such as xorg.conf has been); I have no problem > with editing text files if I need to, but now it's getting > somewhat complicated - I'm not confortable with the fact that > FreeBSD is (getting) complicated, I always loved it because > everything is so simple. But xorg is not FreeBSD, so this is an unreasonable statement. FreeBSD is simple. X has never been particularly simple, and the fact that complexity grows over time is nothing new, either. > But I am not complaining! :-) I've been told that those changes > are absolutely needed to design the creation of new software > more efficiently and cheaper; this is often confused with "bloat", > but it's not, it's evolution! And there's no way around. Of course there is: if you're happy with the state of your software, stop there! Don't upgrade. Don't replace what's working with something newer. That option is usually more difficult than it initially seems. The rest of the world tends to keep on evolving. > I would be more happy if things would really get better, or > even not worse, but sadly, they seem to. Software gets slower > as well as less accessible - Gtk 2, used by many programs, is > a good (bad) example. Am I supposed to buy new computer to replace > perfectly running systems just to keep the "overall usage speed" > of everything at the same level? As above, you don't *have* to upgrade. Keep the old software, and the old hardware will run it. Like everybody, I grumble about changes that don't seem to improve things at the user level. But I try to remember that without change, nothing can improve. It's also worth remembering that open source projects like xorg give the users the rare privilege of being able to make a difference. Test code, provide hardware, document bugs or fixes, do or fund development. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA