From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 15 14:45:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C765216A4CE for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:45:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from relay.talkpoint.com (pobox.talkpoint.com [204.141.15.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335F043D2F for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:45:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nevans@talkpoint.com) Received: from ASSP-nospam ([127.0.0.1]) by relay.talkpoint.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:45:39 -0400 Received: from 204.141.15.136 ([204.141.15.136] helo=postal.talkpoint.com) by ASSP-nospam ; 15 Apr 05 14:45:39 -0000 Received: from paladin.talkpoint.com ([204.141.15.196]) by postal.talkpoint.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 22B5FRGJ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:45:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:44:40 -0400 From: Nick Evans To: emartinez@crockettint.com Message-ID: <20050415104440.403ef9b2@paladin.talkpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <20050414221345.DA71F37AB8@mxc1.crockettint.com> References: <20050414221345.DA71F37AB8@mxc1.crockettint.com> Organization: Talkpoint Communications X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Apr 2005 14:45:39.0514 (UTC) FILETIME=[CAB6D9A0:01C541C9] cc: 'Benson Wong' cc: 'Nick Pavlica' cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.8TB RAID5 SATA Array Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:45:40 -0000 On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:13:48 -0500 "Edgar Martinez" wrote: > Benson..GREAT RESPONSE!! I Don't think I could have done any better myself. > Although I knew most of the information you provided, it was good to know > that my knowledge was not very far off. It's also reassuring that I'm not > the only nut job building ludicrous systems.. > > > > Nick, I believe that we may have some minor misinformation on our hands.. > > > > I refer you both to http://www.freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk/ which according > to the page. > > > > When the UFS filesystem was introduced to BSD in 1982, its use of 32 bit > offsets and counters to address the storage was considered to be ahead of > its time. Since most fixed-disk storage devices use 512 byte sectors, 32 > bits allowed for 2 Terabytes of storage. That was an almost un-imaginable > quantity for the time. But now that 250 and 400 Gigabyte disks are available > at consumer prices, it's trivial to build a hardware or software based > storage array that can exceed 2TB for a few thousand dollars. > > The UFS2 filesystem was introduced in 2003 as a replacement to the original > UFS and provides 64 bit counters and offsets. This allows for files and > filesystems to grow to 2^73 bytes (2^64 * 512) in size and hopefully be > sufficient for quite a long time. UFS2 largely solved the storage size > limits imposed by the filesystem. Unfortunately, many tools and storage > mechanisms still use or assume 32 bit values, often keeping FreeBSD limited > to 2TB. > > So theoretically it should go over 1000TB.I've conducted several bastardized > installations due to sysinstall not being able to do anything over the 2TB > limit by creating the partition ahead of time.I am going to be attacking > this tonight and my efforts will be primarily focused on creating one large > 5.8TB slice..wish me luck!! > > > > PS: Muhaa haa haa! > You'll need to use GPT to make this work for anything over 2TB. Man gpt Nick