From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Nov 21 06:35:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA26076 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 06:35:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA26069 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 06:35:12 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Lehey Received: from freebie.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0vQaCJ-000QqrC; Thu, 21 Nov 96 15:33 MET Received: (grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.de (8.8.3/8.6.12) id PAA00663; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:27:52 +0100 (MET) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Message-Id: <199611211427.PAA00663@freebie.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Drinking (Was: We want Perl!) In-Reply-To: <57u3qj8sxg.fsf@tees.elsevier.co.uk> from Paul Richards at "Nov 21, 96 01:43:39 pm" To: p.richards@elsevier.co.uk (Paul Richards) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 15:27:52 +0100 (MET) Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Chat) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by freebie.lemis.de id PAA00663 Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Paul Richards writes: > Greg Lehey writes: > >> Terry Lambert writes: >>> Many hangovers are the result of impurities other than the alcohol >>> also causing histamine reactions. Red wine was recently reported >>> to cause hangovers worse than white wine, for instance, because of >>> the impurities. >> >> That's recent? In this part of the world, where people perhaps drink >> more wine, it's well-known (well, I know it, anyway :-). > > I think people outside the US generally drink more period. At least in > the social sense anyway i.e. more people drink alcohol as a matter of > course in their normal lives as opposed to serious alcohol problems > which the US has its fair share of. Hmmm. Yes, I know more teetotallers or light drinkers in the US than elsewhere, and I've seen my share of alcoholics there, too, but then, I've seen my share of alcoholics over here as well. I used to have a right load of boozers working (if that's the word) for me. I think the big difference between the US and Europe (I don't think Canada's really on either side) is that many US Americans have a real load of guilt pumped into them, and that fashions their drinking habits. > So, if I was going to ask someone about how to drink a lot it'd be the > folks down the local rugby club but since getting into a rugby club > generally involves being able to consume vast quantities of alcohol > anyway it not something that's often discussed due to the fact that > people are too busy, well, drinking :-) There's a case in point. I don't know what UK rugby clubs are like any more, but in my day what they did there was not considered "social drinking". > Since they don't play rugby in the US, or at least, they haven't been > doing so for long and they aren't very good at it, I doubt they're in > any way an authority on serious social drinking. > > On the other hand, as far as I know the Germans don't play rugby at > all and they are experienced drinkers. Maybe they've spent their time > watching us rugby playing nations and realised that the essence of the > game is consuming vast quantities of lager afterward and being the > inovative nation that they are they have noted that the actual playing = of > the game is an inefficiency and simply removed that part of the > process thus making them a world leader in the methodology of alcohol > consumption :-) Hmmm. There may even be some truth in that. Binding, one of Frankfurt's two big breweries, recently introduced something they call "lager" (and made it clear that it was a drink from English-speaking countries, most probably not in accordance with the purity decree of 1536). But Germans have been drinking beer long before that, they just optimized the matter: they found out how to do it without playing rugby. Instead, they have other traditional methods. For example, on cold, foggy November mornings they grab their shotguns, Flachm=E4nner (what's that in English?), a keg of beer and head off into the forest to go "hunting". It's surprising how few accidents there are. > Hmm, this rambling may have something to do with the fact that the > dept went to the pub for lunch.... No, couldn't have been. Grog