From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 08:15:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7159B16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:15:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from magellan.palisadesys.com (magellan.palisadesys.com [192.188.162.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E25A43F93 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:15:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ghelmer@palisadesys.com) Received: from mira (mira.palisadesys.com [192.188.162.116]) (authenticated bits=0)hALGEYvP046278 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:14:34 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ghelmer@palisadesys.com) From: "Guy Helmer" To: , "Garance A Drosihn" Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:14:34 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3FBD5CCE.40905@acm.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on magellan.palisadesys.com cc: bv@wjv.com cc: Julian Stacey cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: RE: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:15:22 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:15:22 -0000 Tim Kientzle wrote on Thursday, November 20, 2003 6:31 PM > Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > At 6:26 PM +0100 11/17/03, Julian Stacey wrote: > >> Seconded ! Better commit an improved switch with > >> default = Off. > > > > The time for voting was months ago. > ... > > I'm pretty comfortable with the failsafes that we > have in place: > * /sbin/init is static > * If /bin/sh fails, /rescue/sh can be run > * /rescue provides a complete set of statically-linked > sysadmin utilities that should be sufficient > for recovering a damaged system. Thanks to /rescue and the live filesystem archives on current.freebsd.org, I was able to recover a machine that I hosed after the statfs change by trying to installworld without building & booting a new kernel first. Regarding the performance loss due to the dynamic /bin and /sbin, wouldn't prebinding help? Guy Helmer