From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 18:32:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15B410656C8 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 18:32:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815828FC0C for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 18:32:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so4025508yxb.13 for ; Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:32:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=RxDULxa8tgbJyR1rTNC9UXi9ce/O0tAT6P0hRyJesNs=; b=ar9ZASddC2DQChQYIb0yx6+QExvwUeVN5UzA0PBxhU6AUUJq8WpzIwqd/ypS9cCliy B9ZqeXOfmSy3cc7XdVs6bLN4yZ5RC6pTiaTtjxFFyCnzZEBcMrrYal7uSfBvJ4AMqA+o N7go82crgb/Z//h2sExZrcVG3wnGqcyWP1vm4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=a4yWB9DLgQZ57j8VI1UTVKDfs2+abrksmwNUWlroCS+ZTQ5Zz2gGe6/xVe2XPvHF7H 2kcTlD9QPuwyVr38PGBjFmfJ+869nF3PCfFPA2+lj7rFJSWvlc/LRwIrNGQk/5i29Bfw PI4Cg8F9m6d+QMnCiV8GZbhN4tGdih1YUytkM= Received: by 10.65.156.17 with SMTP id i17mr18267545qbo.98.1231524094688; Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:01:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.180.7 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 10:01:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <11167f520901091001hdf9b629t48a1e1b04dd475a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:01:34 -0600 From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: FreeBSD ral(4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:32:48 -0000 Hello list, I found this recent post (added to the bottom of the Email) in a OpenBSD mailing list, and I am experiencing the same problems connecting our Iphone 3G phones to our FreeBSD based AP Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks from Todd T. Fries reply-to todd@fries.net to Damon McMahon cc misc@openbsd.org date Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 3:48 PM subject Re: Strange WLAN issue with ral(4) in hostap mode mailed-by openbsd.org Reply There are power savings for 802.11 that OpenBSD does not support; this is entirely independent from saving battery via cpu clocking and it is also entirely independent from saving battery via adjusting the transmit power of the radio. The power savings for 802.11 actually put the radio to sleep for a given interval and wake it up sending a message to the AP which is supposed to hold packets for a given client until the client responds, which OpenBSD does not do, therefore packetloss ensues. I know this very well, my BlackBerry Pearl 8120 gets 90-95% packet loss with an OpenBSD based AP. Damien is aware of what needs doing, but I am to understand it is not a short or easy road to get there. Thanks, -- Todd Fries .. todd@fries.net