From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 6 13:03:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EA6106566C for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 13:03:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-gg0-f182.google.com (mail-gg0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FFB8FC0C for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 13:03:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk4 with SMTP id k4so2932979ggn.13 for ; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 06:03:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=gG40D0hjDGgYvZJgoOyRGqtHwG1miyo8FgsSTERtevI=; b=gaSMN6GPKqPkl64qpbiZ+W33m8BK8LPQ7E6wcinv6VbR8cS2MAEwgVCupNqSJADTTb 40IsjU3P10L6o7f11I124RYu4C+XX3tg4OkC7XhexUaECiI9kR24Bn6SRcPGEfKiudkI S4Knw29mhrRJTexMQPklfqzbGOj7o1t930eagpo7Cb9cLGCwrCjy8hKD9X+DbdK8WZeo Ws35GV/MWwAv/G4oqZNWp7bkT3N27kDD4V1Z3XwMZ5ZsHOvJcpQA3rsALYBZ6i3yIP6E hQk9POfAUoiPrz6jMGI1SE2MgEJuf0wr0x/CU1fryZf+c8LokTBYzP9VhQk6Odkpl28t Twqw== Received: by 10.236.80.34 with SMTP id j22mr9763435yhe.82.1344258189272; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 06:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from papi ([187.113.166.75]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y13sm10232295anj.5.2012.08.06.06.03.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 06 Aug 2012 06:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 10:03:54 -0300 From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120806100354.47abfd53@papi> In-Reply-To: <20120806081638.1033190a@scorpio> References: <20120805045800.29444.qmail@joyce.lan> <20510.27576.562781.36878@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120805093320.7b7f0fc4@scorpio> <20120805214321.17a02e43@papi> <20120806081638.1033190a@scorpio> Organization: BSD X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmwP/uJUpUMgKcweHWJzqG1wJ/BtKe8Ymp600EhFeBXyAShfUiIirX9XchnQU7yz1voPC2y Subject: Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:03:10 -0000 On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 08:16:38 -0400 Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 21:43:21 -0300 > Mario Lobo articulated: >=20 > > On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 09:33:20 -0400 > > Jerry wrote: > >=20 > > > On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 08:48:56 -0400 > > > Robert Huff articulated: > > >=20 > > [Snip] > >=20 > > > The socialists still feel they are entitled to something > > > for nothing. > > >=20 > > Jerry; > >=20 > > Forgive me for barging in like this but to me, what your sentence > > describes is just plain good old greedy people. Patents provided > > the perfect LEGAL way for these very people to make theirs, an idea > > that they didn't think of or had the gift/talent to create, as a > > quickie for profit. The result: Now the long patent arm reaches > > fruit, seeds and DNA. This means that I can't "create" a Graviola > > juice drink (local Brazilian fruit) because a Japanese guy patented > > the fruit !! How ridiculous did we allowed this to get? >=20 > Yes you can. You are stating a commonly held incorrect belief. You can > always request a license from the patient holder. No one, well no one > interested in monetary compensation would patient anything unless they > were: >=20 > =E2=81=BD=C2=B9=E2=81=BE Intended to use the patents in such a way that t= hey would > directly profit from it >=20 > =E2=81=BD=C2=B2=E2=81=BE Intended to lease the patent rights or outright = sell the patent. >=20 > Patients protect hard working people who may work years, maybe half > their life to come up with a killer idea only to have a douche bag > come along and use it sans payments. >=20 > Interestingly enough, you seem to equate an entity, individual, group > or corporation that want to profit off of their work and investment as > greedy. I call them entitled. With that said, feel free to develop > some great idea and then give it away for nothing. No one, certainly > not me, is going to stop you. >=20 Discussion moved off-list. --=20 Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) =20