From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 7 13:57:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E4E37B401; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic.adaptec.com [208.236.45.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3972E43E65; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:57:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottl@btc.adaptec.com) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11] (may be forged)) by magic.adaptec.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g97KvCw16566; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com (btc.btc.adaptec.com [10.100.0.52]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04992; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hollin.btc.adaptec.com (hollin [10.100.253.56]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12149; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 14:57:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hollin.btc.adaptec.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hollin.btc.adaptec.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g97KsPe3029307; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 14:54:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@hollin.btc.adaptec.com) Received: (from scottl@localhost) by hollin.btc.adaptec.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id g97KsOe6029306; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 14:54:24 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 14:54:24 -0600 From: Scott Long To: Terry Lambert Cc: John Baldwin , Paul Mather , current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any users of matcd(4), mcd(4), or scd(4)? Message-ID: <20021007205423.GA29298@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> References: <3DA1EE0A.ACC9CAAF@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DA1EE0A.ACC9CAAF@mindspring.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 01:26:50PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: > > > I can appreciate matcd being dropped for 5.0 on pragmatic grounds, but > > > it would have been nice to have it ride out the rest of 4.x, given that > > > it actually works right now. (As I understand it, it's the adoption > > > of GEOM that signalled the death knell of these old drivers, but GEOM > > > is a 5.x feature that wouldn't be MFC'd back to 4.x...) > > > > Unfortunately there were other issues with the driver unrelated to GEOM > > that required its removal. > > What are these? I've read the license, and it doesn't appear to > be a license issue... Terry, Please be sure that you are not confusing 'matcd' with 'mcd'. The former has a 10 clause license and is not suitable for use in FreeBSD any more. The latter has a traditional 4 clause BSD license and is not scheduled for removal. In fact, there is at least one person doing active maintenance on it. Folks, I mourned the passing of matcd, too. It supported the first CD-ROM drive I owned. However, it is a closed issue. I encourage anyone who still desired support for this hardware to investigate other code bases which we could leverage off of, as long as the licensing issues involved are well understood and amenible. Please do not let it distract from the progress we are making towards the 5.0 release. Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message