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Subject: Re: Need to update man section 4! 
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From: Kazutaka YOKOTA <yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp>
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Thank you for your comments.

The User Config menu is completely disabled and isn't available
in -CURRENT now.

I strongly doubt it will ever come back. You see, we can now
set/unset/edit device resource "hints" from the loader(8) prompt,
thus, there is little need to have the old User Config menu compiled
into the kernel.

Please also have a look at my draft on the man page for device.hints(5).

http://people.freebsd.org/~yokota/device.hints.5

The only thing which were available in the User Config, but is not in
the loader(8) is the "Visual" User Config option.

But, I expect such visual front-end to edit the device resource hints
can be added to the loader, in one way or another.

Kazu

>> Please have a look at my preliminary patch at
>> 
>> http://people.freebsd.org/~yokota/man4update.diff
>
>Very nice work!  Especially all the references to hints.
>Must have taken quite some time.  Thank you :)
>
>In the atkbd.4 manpage you changed a part in:
>
>     The
>     .Nm
>    -driver accepts the following driver flags.  They can be set either in
>    the
>    -kernel configuration file
>    -(see
>    -.Xr config 8 ) ,
>    -or else in the User Configuration Menu at boot time
>    +driver accepts the following driver flags.
>    +They can be set either in
>    +.Pa /boot/device.hints ,
>    +or else from within the boot loader
>     (see
>    -.Xr boot 8 ) .
>    +.Xr loader 8 ) .
>
>Same thing can also be found at psm.4, syscons.4, matcd.4
>
>Since both the User Configuration menu can be used (provided that
>support has been compiled in the kernel) do you think you could
>mention both somehow?  Or is this not really necessary?

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