From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 13:43:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7103437B418 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:43:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEA84786E1; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:13:23 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:13:23 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: "Andrew C. Hornback" Cc: Anthony Atkielski , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Message-ID: <20011119081323.N72712@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <03af01c1702e$d38c0520$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Broken line wraps. On Sunday, 18 November 2001 at 15:26:44 -0500, Andrew C. Hornback wrote: > On Sunday, November 18, 2001 7:45 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: >> Andrew writes: >> >>> Just to be safe, I'd still seek some kind of diagnostic just to >>> make sure. >> >> That would not be logical. Hardware failures are extremely rare; >> software failures are extremely common. It doesn't make sense to >> spend time trying to rule out hardware (which is never actually >> possible, anyway) when a software error is more likely to be the >> culprit. That depends on the effort involved. >>> I'm not 100% sure about this, but I believe that if you CVSupped >>> to the newest version, it might include the fix. >> >> I have something that I got somewhere with cvsup; maybe it was >> source, or the latest ports, or something. I don't know exactly >> what source is currently on the machine.q The first thing you need to do is fix that problem. You *must* know what sources you have. >> In general, I do not update an entire operating system in a shotgun >> approach to fixing a problem of unknown origin, as it often causes >> more problems than it solves. The FreeBSD approach is always to update the system in sync; any other approach often causes more problems than it solves. > You don't need to update the entire operating system if you > can procure and install the patch. This isn't a patch, it's an update to -CURRENT. The FreeBSD project almost never uses "patches". You shouldn't install updates which haven't been tested with your system. How do you know they will even compile? If you want to use this fix, you must install -CURRENT. In this case, that's probably not appropriate, which is why I suggested contacting sos. >>> Your best bet, I believe, is going to be to talk with sos and see >>> about getting the patch either MFC'd to the STABLE branch, or to >>> get a copy of the patch yourself and apply it. >> >> Who is sos? Søren Schmidt, the author of the IDE driver. > I don't know personally, but from what Greg has mentioned in > previous posts, I imagine sos is the person that wrote the patch to > make the FreeBSD work properly with the IDE Controller chipset on > your motherboard. Well, as the commit log stated, the update works around a design bug in the IDE controller. Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message